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Guerrilla History

Dinosaurs and Decolonizing Paleontology w/ Aline Ghilardi, Juan Cisneros, & Tito Aureliano

Guerrilla History

Henry

History, Education

4.8622 Ratings

🗓️ 15 September 2023

⏱️ 120 minutes

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Summary

In this episode of Guerrilla History, we have a fascinating discussion alongside three wonderful paleontologists based in Brazil about efforts to decolonize paleontology and restitute stolen fossils.  These three have written some great articles on this topic, such as The moral and legal imperative to return illegally exported fossils, Colonial history and global economics distort our understanding of deep-time biodiversity, and Digging deeper into colonial palaeontological practices in modern day Mexico and Brazil.  This is a crucial conversation, and one which we feel doesn't get nearly enough attention even within political circles like the one we operate in.  #IrritatorBelongstoBr

Aline Ghilardi is an Associate Professor in the Department of Geology at UFRN.  You can find the work that her (and Tito's) paleontology lab does at the website en.dinolab.com.br.  Aline can be followed on twitter @alinemghilardi
 
Juan Cisneros is a paleontologist and an Associate Professor in the Department of Geology at UFPI twitter @PaleoCisneros.
 
Tito Aureliano is an Associate Researcher at DINOlab in the Department of Geology at UFRN.  His work can be viewed at the same website linked in Aline's bio above.  In addition, Tito and Aline co-run a multimedia science communication project titled Colecionadores De Ossos (Bone Collectors), which includes a YouTube channel, books, comics, and even a video game!  Tito can be followed on twitter @tito_aureliano
 
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You remember Den Van Boo?

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No!

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The same thing happened in Algeria, in Africa.

0:14.0

They didn't have anything but a rank.

0:17.0

The French had all these highly mechanized instruments of warfare.

0:22.9

But they put some guerrilla action on.

0:33.6

Hello and welcome to guerrilla history, the podcast that acts as a reconnaissance report of global proletarian history and aims to use the lessons of history to analyze the present.

0:55.4

I'm one of your co-hosts, Henry Huckimacki, joined, unfortunately, by only one of my usual co-hosts. We are joined by Professor Adnan Hussein, who of course is his historian and director of the School of Religion at Queen's University in Ontario, Canada. Hello, Adnan. How are you doing today? I'm doing really well, Henry. It's great to be with you, and I'm excited for today's conversation. Yeah, as am I. We're unfortunately not joined by our

1:01.3

other usual co-host, Brett O'Shea, who is host of Revolutionary Left Radio and co-host of the Red

1:06.2

Menace podcast, as he is out on the road right now. And hopefully we'll get to hear more about those

1:11.8

travels soon. And I know that we're looking forward to having him back for the next conversation.

1:17.0

But as Adnan said, we have a really fascinating conversation coming up, one that is at the

1:21.4

intersection of many of my personal interests. Hopefully the listeners are also interested in

1:26.2

the intersections that we'll be talking about

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today. But before I introduce the topic and our guests, I want to remind the listeners that you can

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pod, G-U-E-R-R-I-L-A-U-Score pod. Now, today we have three really excellent guests and a fascinating conversation. We're going to be talking about the intersections of paleontology, scientific colonialism, and cultural restitution. Like I said, three topics that I'm very deeply interested in, and I know many of our listeners will be as well.

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We are joined by, and I'll introduce them each in turn, Juan Cisneros, who is an associate professor in the Department of Geology at UFPI.

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