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Well, our guest today, Brian Morrissey writes the rebooting newsletter and hosts the rebooting podcasts.

It's an excellent read and listen about the future of digital publishing.

And I am a pretty intense reader and listener of the stuff that Brian does, A, because I run my own digital publishing business, but B, because I think when the internet changes,

you can always see this stuff happening first in the digital publishing world.

I think it's kind of like the crimes and courts of the internet.

You see the changes happen there first, and then you start talking about how the policies

can fix the issues.

So I'm thrilled to Brian here today.

We're going to have a long discussion about the evolution, the next evolution of digital

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