Welcome to Just Between Us, the podcast with all of the answers, some of the time.

A bit of a different thing going on this week.

You've been immature and you've lied.

And now you're trying to turn it on me and manipulate me and gaslight me.

I was trying to manipulate you.

Diana, you would be chucking their clothes out of the window.

I know, I'd be like, are you joking?

I don't know.

I guess you'd have to ask.

Someone that has sex.

Someone that has sex.

And remember, it's just between us.

Hello and welcome to the History Extra podcast from BBC History Magazine, Britain's best-selling history magazine.

I'm Ellie Cawthorne. While today, London may be a buzzing metropolis. In the Roman era,

it was a provincial city on the fringes of the empire. In his new book, London in the Roman world,

Dominic Perring discusses what we know about the city's ancient past and how its story ties into that of the wider empire. Speaking with Emily Briffitt, he examines the city's

key turning points and explores how life in the Roman city was affected by fire, plague and warfare.

So today we are going to be talking about your book, London in the Roman worlds. And I think the most important question to start off with

is why is London an important site for us to look at when we are studying the Romans?

Gosh, lots of reasons, but the big reason is we just know an awful lot about it.

People have been digging in London for 400, 450 years.

And obviously in the city of London, new skyscrapers, the pace, the sheer intensity of

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