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Dig: From the River to the Sea w/ Noura Erakat and Tareq Baconi

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Socialism, History, News, Left, Jacobin, Alternative, Socialist, Politics

4.71.5K Ratings

🗓️ 22 May 2021

⏱️ 93 minutes

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Summary

Dan speaks with Noura Erakat and Tareq Baconi: an in-depth interview on Israeli apartheid and dispossession, the history and future of the Palestinian struggle, Israeli politics, media false equivalences, and shifting US public opinion toward Palestine.

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0:00.0

This episode of The Dig is brought to you by our listeners who support us at patreon.com

0:05.6

and by verso books, which has loads of great left-wing titles, perfect for dig listeners like you.

0:12.4

One that you might like is, tomorrow they won't dare to murder us,

0:16.6

a novel by Joseph Andras, translated from The French by Simon Lazaire,

0:21.8

a young revolutionary plants a bomb in a factory on the outskirts of Algiers during the Algerian war.

0:28.1

The bomb is time to explode after work hours, so no one will be hurt.

0:32.3

But the authorities have been watching. He is caught, the bomb is defused,

0:36.8

and he is tortured, tried in a day, and sentenced to death by guillotine.

0:42.9

By turns, lyrical, meditative, and heart-stoppingly suspenseful,

0:47.9

this debut novel by Joseph Andras, based on a true story, was a literary and political sensation in

0:56.3

France. Tomorrow they won't dare to murder us by Joseph Andras, out now from verso books.

1:12.9

Welcome to The Dig, a podcast from Jacobin Magazine. My name is Daniel Denver,

1:18.4

and I'm broadcasting from Providence, Rhode Island. This is our second episode this week

1:24.5

on Palestine. Please do check out the interview we posted earlier this week,

1:29.6

with teacher and BDS activist Ayah Al-Ghazawi and journalist Isam Adwan, if you have not done so already.

1:38.1

Today's episode is my interview with Palestinian scholars and analysts, Nura Erakat, and Tarek Bakoni.

1:46.6

We discuss a lot, including this latest round of Israeli assaults in Gaza,

1:51.8

East Jerusalem, and throughout historic Palestine, the mainstream media construction of false

1:57.2

equivalencies, the extreme right-wing trajectory of Israeli politics, the dynamics structuring the

2:04.0

relationship between Hamas and Netanyahu, and what it means for the Palestinian national liberation

2:10.4

struggle that Palestinians have so powerfully united across the divides that Israel has imposed,

2:18.0

fighting for a free Palestine from the river to the sea. We also discuss the historic shift

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