Did Trump bet wrong? Americans are flip-flopping.
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🗓️ 29 August 2025
⏱️ 19 minutes
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Summary
According to Gallup, 79% of Americans now say immigration is a good thing for the country, which is a record high. Plus, the share of Americans who want lower rates of immigration has dropped from 55% in 2024 to 30% this year. And it's not just this poll showing a shift in how we think about immigration. But why has this change happened? And where might we see reverberations of this in our culture? Brittany digs into the data and the consequences for the Trump administration with Jasmine Garsd, NPR senior immigration correspondent, and Christian Paz, political correspondent at Vox.
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| 1:03.2 | Hello, hello. I'm Brittany Luce, and you're listening to It's Been a Minute from NPR, |
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| 1:25.3 | immigration. I know, I know. How are all of these things connected? |
| 1:30.6 | Well, we're going to find out with Jasmine Gar's NPR Senior Immigration Correspondent and Christian |
| 1:35.6 | Paa's political correspondent at Vox. I'm so glad to be back. Hi. Yeah, this is so exciting. Thanks for |
| 1:40.8 | having us. Okay, so we're here to talk about some recent polling that I found quite shocking. |
| 1:46.6 | Can you in a nutshell tell our listeners about what Gallup says about American views on immigration? |
| 1:52.6 | Yeah. What Gallup captures is something that is pretty remarkable, actually, like as jarring up a shift as you can see on a chart, which is essentially that the trend that we've been seeing over the last five years or so of increasing opposition to, you know, immigration in general has slowed down. |
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