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The Hard Way With Joe De Sena

Did they Get This Wrong About COVID?/ Joe De Sena & Ivor Cummins

The Hard Way With Joe De Sena

Spartan Races

Fitness, Alternative Health, Health & Fitness, 792700

4.7870 Ratings

🗓️ 2 November 2020

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

Biochemical Engineer and Complex Problem Solving Specialist Ivor Cummins talks about the conclusions he's come to based on Covid data. At Spartan, we do the hard things. Today that means tackling a difficult conversation. Joe De Sena invited Ivor to share his information with you. Please, listen all the way through, give it some thought, and then let us know what he got right, and what he got wrong. Two things we can ALL agree on - we need to have open discussion and review of the data, and we should all be getting exercise, eating healthy, and getting outside.



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Producer – Marion Abrams, Madmotion, llc.

Host: Joe De Sena

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0:00.0

Imagine our governments had all suddenly said, let's get robustness of human health right up in the next few weeks.

0:07.0

Can you imagine, rather than the lockdown, if they said everybody for 100 days has to just eat healthy.

0:15.0

I would say, Joe, if you got a country and split it in half, right, and five million people each, half Sweden.

0:26.0

And a couple of months before this virus hits,

0:29.2

half of them, they were only allowed to eat fish and eggs and vegetables and you know some fruits not too

0:36.9

sugary and some meat obviously they were only eating real foods and they couldn't eat anything else.

0:44.1

Within a few weeks, the difference in impact when SARS-Covi2 is introduced between those two

0:50.8

would be enormous.

0:53.0

Welcome to the Spartan Up podcast with Joe Descena, founder and CEO of Spartan Race.

1:00.0

We are talking about overcoming obstacles.

1:08.0

The same way we teach people to get over obstacles on the course, we will teach you here on a Spartan Up podcast

1:11.0

to get over obstacles in your mind.

1:13.0

Spartans, Joe Descentere, founder, CEO of Spartan and the host of Spartan Up

1:18.0

podcast.

1:20.0

I got a doozy for you here.

1:21.0

This is one that I'm really excited about. It's

1:24.4

controversial. I'm sure you're going to be pissed off in some ways, but have an

1:29.2

open mind. What we're going to focus on is his guest I had Ivor Cummins. I found him on the

1:35.2

worldwide web. He sits over an island. He is a biochemist. He's a big thinker. He's done a bunch of analysis over the years for large companies to solve complex

1:46.4

problems. I'm not saying he's right, I'm not saying he's wrong, but it certainly got me thinking

1:52.4

on what's going on around the world not just with the

1:56.1

virus but the way news is fed to us information is fed to us and look I've had the fortune during this disaster pandemic over the last couple of

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