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Coffee House Shots

Did the Sue Gray report move the dial?

Coffee House Shots

The Spectator

Daily News, News, Politics

4.42.2K Ratings

🗓️ 25 May 2022

⏱️ 14 minutes

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Summary

The long-awaited Sue Gray report is finally published today. It included new photographs (including of the birthday bash, though James Forsyth describes the photo as looking more like 'an enforced office socialising occasion' than a party), colourful details (one staffer was threw up at one drinks) and some unsavoury revelations (Sue Gray was damning about some of the staffers' treatment of cleaners and security staff). But amidst all this, has the report really worsened the situation for Boris Johnson? Katy Balls talks to Isabel Hardman and James on this episode.

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0:16.9

Hello and welcome to Coffee Hair Shots,

0:18.8

Spectators Daily Politics Podcast. I'm Katie Bulls and I'm joined by Isvah Harbin and James

0:24.5

for Saif. The Sue Gray report has finally been published. Isvah, can you talk us through

0:31.0

some of the main points? So it's a curious report in lots of ways. It makes very grim reading,

0:39.1

but not for the conclusions that she reaches, which are quite sort of restrained, I think it's

0:44.8

fair to say, in quite civil service. She obviously doesn't say, you know, the Prime Minister should

0:49.0

resign. He's a very bad man or anything like that. But what is, I think, powerful about it,

0:58.0

is the way in which it lists all the events, the Sue Gray investigated and then the details

1:03.6

of those events. So the party, for instance, where someone accidentally set off a panic alarm

1:10.2

and the police were called and found everyone there and then apparently just went off without

1:14.9

doing anything about it, the emails and the WhatsApp messages were aides such as Lee Kane,

1:20.9

question whether it's a good idea to be having a party and the Prime Minister's Principal Private

1:25.7

Secretary Martin Reynolds is quite clearly keen to push ahead with a proper party. And then a message

1:33.2

he sends after said party saying, I think we got away with it, a party at which someone was sick,

1:39.8

another party where Red Wine was found splashed on a wall the next day, particularly devastating

1:46.7

paragraph, I think about levels of rudeness towards security guards and cleaners and so on,

1:53.2

which I think has, has is a slightly separate issue, I think, to probably lock down parties in

1:58.9

that it may well be a prevalent culture, regardless of the COVID restrictions that were being

2:04.3

flouted. And then in terms of her actual conclusions about it, she basically says a senior leadership

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