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Ryan Broderick, who's probably the best person out there, or at least my favorite, covering

internet culture and the intersection with politics. And so I went to interview him about

the internet culture that the Charlie Kirk assassin was ensconced in, as reflected in the carvings that he did on the bullets that ended up, at least one of them, ended up killing Charlie Kirk.

And I think it's really important and valuable conversation for a lot of reasons.

But since that conversation, we have had

some more breaking news on what the motive might have been based on this report from authorities

and the release of some text messages between the shooter and his trans roommate. Among the texts, he writes,

Why did I do it?

I had enough of his hatred.

Some hate can't be negotiated out.

So it's important to just say clearly,

there was some ideological motivation here,

clearly related to Kirk's speech.

I mean, he says it as clear as day in the text to his roommate. There have been some people that have tried to claim that that wasn't the

case, but I don't know how much more evidence you need than that. In addition to that, he also talks about the meme culture that we get into in this interview.

And he talks about how the engravings that he does on the bullets, he says the fucking messages are mostly a big meme.

So if I see notices bulge,

Owoo on Fox News, misspelled,

I might have a stroke.

So it also was a troll.

And it also demonstrates that he was,

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