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Money For the Rest of Us

Did ETFs Pass the 2020 Market Collapse Stress Test?

Money For the Rest of Us

J. David Stein

Investing, Investing Podcast, Business, Economics, Economy

4.51.4K Ratings

🗓️ 26 August 2020

⏱️ 26 minutes

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Summary

How did ETFs function during the 2020 market sell-off and did the indexing bubble burst? What ETF structures failed the stress test and which passed.

  • Why were some investors, like Michael Burry, concerned about an indexing bubble
  • What are ETF risks such as flash crashes
  • How did equity ETFs function during the spring 2020 sell-off and how they can act as shock absorbers
  • What were some of the challenges that bond ETFs faced in March 2020
  • How the rise in bond ETFs is leading to changes in how bonds are traded
  • Why leveraged ETFs and oil-linked ETFs failed the stress test
  • What caused the dysfunction in the U.S. Treasury market in March 2020
  • What are the advantages of ETFs and why they are still a good product for long-term investors


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0:00.0

Welcome to Money for the rest of us. This is a personal finance show on money, how it works, how to invest it, and how to live without worrying about it.

0:10.0

I'm your host David Stein today's episode 311. It's titled, Did ETFs pass the

0:16.0

2020 market collapse stress test? Last week, Laperil my daughter and I were in Red Lodge, Montana. We had been camping and we wanted to order some take-out food.

0:28.8

We found an Italian restaurant, I called to order our meal and the individual that answered ask if he could put me on hold.

0:37.0

I said, sure, seven minutes later I was still on hold.

0:41.0

There was no hold music. He had put the phone down and I could hear people in the

0:45.8

background talking. I finally got so frustrated, I drove to the restaurant still on hold and

0:52.1

walked in and said, hey, I'm the guy on hold he was

0:56.7

somewhat apologetic said he had been delivering some food the restaurant was

1:01.5

empty maybe the receipts out back. So I tried to place my order. I wanted to order some pizza. He said we don't have any pizza today. We're not making it. The last time I was in a pizza restaurant that didn't have pizza was in Cuba, and they

1:15.6

actually told me why. They said they had no cheese. I tried to order the vegetarian lasagna.

1:20.4

We're not doing vegetarian lasagna today, he said. At that point I gave up and left.

1:27.0

It's important that businesses and financial instruments be tested and be given feedback when their processes aren't working well.

1:37.0

Sometimes it's called a stress test.

1:40.0

Now in the case of this restaurant, I thought, since I was on hold so long that they were under stress,

1:45.7

so it would be helpful to provide feedback.

1:48.4

No, the restaurant was empty.

1:51.1

This year, we have definitely had some stressed financial markets and there were

1:56.4

predictions that some financial instruments would not perform well in a

2:01.5

stressful environment when there are many sellers trying to exit.

2:05.0

Michael Burry is a hedge fund manager that was featured in the movie and book The Big Short.

2:12.0

He predicted the subprime crisis of 2008.

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