Did Anyone Win When Mehdi Hasan Debated 20 Far-Right Conservatives?
Brian Lehrer: A Daily Politics Podcast
WNYC Studios
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🗓️ 23 July 2025
⏱️ 22 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | This is Brian Lair's Daily Politics podcast from WNYC Studios. |
| 0:10.0 | It's Wednesday, July 23rd. |
| 0:14.8 | I'm Bridget Bergen, senior reporter in the WNYC and Gothamist Newsroom sitting in for Brian this week. |
| 0:20.7 | If you follow politics and you've been on social media, |
| 0:23.6 | you've likely come across a viral clip of a prominent figure in a room |
| 0:27.6 | surrounded by people who disagree with them for the ostensible purpose of debate. |
| 0:32.6 | These videos are produced by a media company called Jubilee, |
| 0:36.6 | whose YouTube channel has over 10 million subscribers. |
| 0:41.1 | Wow. |
| 0:41.9 | The goal of this company, as stated in their biography sections |
| 0:45.1 | across their various platforms, |
| 0:46.9 | is to, quote, provoke understanding and create human connection. |
| 0:50.9 | Well, here's a preview of their most recent video titled, One Progressive |
| 0:55.8 | versus 20 far-right conservatives with Medi Hassan, editor-in-chief and CEO of Ziteo, columnist |
| 1:03.6 | for The Guardian and former MSNBC host. My family lineage of settlers from the 1500s. |
| 1:09.4 | You don't look very Native American to me. I am Native American. Whites are Native Americans. What are you talking about? You're not. You're a little bit more than a far-right Republican. Hey, what can I say? I think you say I'm a fascist. Yeah, I am. Listen to me. I am an immigrant. I'm speaking for personal experience. Get the hell out. I don't even like, I should get the hell out. Yes. Why? I don't want you here. My first claim is Donald Trump is pro-crime and pro-criminal. Donald Trump is defying the Constitution. Immigrants, overall, are good for America. Donald Trump's plan for Gaza is ethnic cleansing. I'm Mady Hassan. I'm a journalist. |
| 1:45.4 | I'm the editor of Zateo. And today I'm surrounded by 20 far right conservatives. |
| 1:51.5 | From that clip, you might be able to gather why critics of Jubilee believe the videos they're |
| 1:56.9 | they produce don't actually further that goal of provoking understanding and creating human connection. |
| 2:02.9 | Some go so far is to discourage thinkers like Medi Haasen from participating in this kind of content. |
| 2:09.7 | But Medi did show up with his claims, prepared to debate 30 far-right conservatives on the pressing issues of our time. |
| 2:17.0 | And he joins us now to talk about |
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