Dialogue: The Fourth Mansion

Turning to the Mystics with James Finley

Center for Action and Contemplation

Spirituality, Religion & Spirituality, Christianity

4.8 • 1.8K Ratings

🗓️ 27 July 2020

⏱️ 51 minutes

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In this episode, Jim and Kirsten have a dialogue around the fourth mansion of Teresa of Avila's The Interior Castle and discuss the path it provides for spiritual transformation. In this episode, Kirsten references a translation of the Interior Castle by Mirabai Starr. You can get it here. Resources: Turning to the Mystics is a podcast by the Center for Action and Contemplation. To learn more about Jim, visit jamesfinley.org  The transcript for this episode can be found here. The book being used for this season can be found here. Check out our online course on the Interior Castle, details are here. Connect with us: We also produce other podcasts you might enjoy. To learn more about them and our other offerings, visit cac.org This podcast is made possible, thanks to the generosity of our donors. If you would love to support the ongoing work of the Center for Action and Contemplation and the continued work of our podcasts, you can donate at cac.org/podcastsupport Thank you!

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0:00.0	You're listening to a podcast by the Center for Action and Contemplation.
0:04.4	To learn more, visit cacac.org.
0:08.9	Greetings. I'm Jim Finley.
0:11.6	And I'm Kirsten Oates. Welcome to turning to the Mystics.
0:17.0	Hello everyone and welcome to turning to the Mystics. In this season we're
0:28.6	turning to the Mystic Saint Teresa Vavala and looking at her wonderful book, The Interior Castle.
0:36.9	I'm here with Jim and we're excited to be talking about Mansion 4. I'm so excited to be talking to you today about
0:45.8	the fourth mansion as I was preparing the questions were just flowing and I'm just so excited to enter into this dialogue with you and learn more.
0:57.0	It's a beautiful mansion and it's full of content like lots of lots of different ideas and things to learn so I
1:07.2	wanted to start where she starts in chapter one where she says now is when we enter the realm of the supernatural and I just
1:17.6	wanted to start there and ask you what does she mean by that what she
1:21.4	talking about yes I think for her what she means is that in the first three
1:28.1	mansions, our experience is still,
1:35.0	experience of our self in ego consciousness,
1:39.0	illumined by faith.
1:41.0	And so it's through faith that we are able to first hear that God's present in our life in a way
1:52.1	that experientially becomes real to us, and we enter the mansion of our own soul.
1:57.0	There's all those struggles.
1:59.0	The struggle deepens and gets more pure in the second mansion, these traumatic
2:04.5	bonding we have to keep releasing from. And then it matures in the third mansion
2:10.0	psychological spiritual maturity. So that is that's kind of mediated
2:16.1	grace, concretized in the human experience on this earth, which is efficacious unto
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