DHH on Basecamp's painful evolution, Bitcoin, Revitalizing internet discourse + Lumanu CEO Tony Tran | E1394

This Week in Startups

Jason Calacanis

Technology

4.4 • 1.3K Ratings

🗓️ 26 February 2022

⏱️ 119 minutes

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Summary

Jason chats with David Heinemeier Hansson (2:03) about global governments reacting to COVID, Basecamp’s Twitter cycle blowup last spring when more than 1/3 of the company left, the shift from debating in the public square (Twitter) to debating in private with friends on group chats. We also talk about why David now sees a case for Bitcoin after Canada leans toward authoritarianism.

(00:00) Jason and Molly intro today’s episode, David Heinemeier Hansson, OK Boomer with Tony Tran of Lumanu
(02:03) Jason catches up with David Heinemeier Hansson
(07:05) DHH on Living in Denmark during COVID
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(11:41) Social media: a weapon of mass disfunction
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(21:40) DHH on keeping politics out of the workplace and offering severance for company culture unity
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(32:41) Jason and DHH on the joys of working at home
(39:41) Jason and DHH discuss the downsides of social media
(46:50) Why DHH changed his position on cryptocurrency and the Canadian trucker protests
(01:34:15) Jason, Molly, and Rachel intro this week’s OK Boomer
(01:36:02) Rachel speaks with Tony Tran, CEO of Lumanu

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0:00.0	Hey, everybody, hey, everybody, it's a great show today.
0:02.9	You love this guest.
0:04.2	He's here for his fourth appearance on the show.
0:07.4	David, Hanmeyer Hanson is on the show, you know him as DHH.
0:12.2	We talk about government's reaction to COVID,
0:14.3	base camps, blow up if you remember that last year
0:16.6	when more than the third of the company left,
0:18.2	when they said, hey, no more talking about political
0:21.4	or social stuff at work.
0:23.0	And we talk about the shift from debating
0:25.5	in the public scare Twitter to all of our friends
0:28.3	and creators and capital allocators moving to email
0:31.3	and group chats.
0:32.5	Plus, we talk about Canada's strength
0:34.5	towards authoritarianism, causing DHH to get Orange Pilled.
0:38.8	Yes, he was very critical of Bitcoin in cryptocurrencies.
0:44.2	And now since he saw people's accounts getting frozen,
0:48.0	he's been Orange Pilled.
0:49.0	Orange Pilled means you are now a Bitcoin fan.
0:52.8	And finally, I cannot wait to hear this interview.
0:56.4	And at the end, we have another OK Boomer segment
0:59.8	where Rachel talks to Tony Tran,
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