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'Determined to the very end': Francis' legacy as a progressive, Jesuit pope

Here & Now Anytime

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🗓️ 21 April 2025

⏱️ 28 minutes

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We reflect on Pope Francis and his legacy with John Allen, longtime Vatican reporter and Crux editor. And, the Supreme Court temporarily blocked the Trump administration from deporting a group of Venezuelan migrants over the weekend. Georgetown University law professor Stephen Vladeck explains more about the ruling. Then, as Colorado River water levels dwindle, some cities are looking for alternative ways to curb water shortages. Some are turning wastewater into drinkable water with advanced water purification technology. Here & Now's Peter O'Dowd reports.

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WBUR Podcasts, Boston.

0:23.1

Bonapasqua.

0:26.0

Pope Francis's last Easter message.

0:29.8

He died hours after issuing a final plea for peace and understanding around the world.

0:44.6

Thank you. understanding around the world. It's Monday, April 21st, and this is here and now anytime from NPR and WBUR.

0:50.0

I'm Chris Bentley.

0:53.9

Today on the show, the Supreme Court stops the government from sending more Venezuelan

0:58.7

migrants to a prison in El Salvador for now.

1:02.7

And would you drink purified sewage?

1:07.1

Millions of people already do.

1:08.9

We think that this is that next bucket of water that we need to tap into.

1:13.8

After decades of drought, more cities in the West say recycling water is part of the solution.

1:20.2

That story and Peter O'Dowd's review of a popsicle made from purified wastewater coming up in about 15 minutes.

1:56.3

But first... A sombre day in St. Peter's Square as mourners gather to mark the death of Pope Francis.

2:01.5

The groundbreaking 88-year-old pontiff died earlier this morning at his home in the Vatican,

2:05.9

just hours after greeting pilgrims yesterday for the Easter holiday.

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The beloved leader of the Catholic Church was an advocate for the marginalized and vulnerable.

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In his Easter message read aloud by an aide,

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the Pope called for an end to wars around the world, from Gaza to Ukraine,

2:25.3

and said, quote, I would like all of us to hope anew and to revive our trust in others,

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