Destructive Unionism: Part 2, The Current Day

The Irish Passport

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4.8 • 652 Ratings

🗓️ 24 January 2021

⏱️ 44 minutes

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New survey data suggests majorities in Scotland and Northern Ireland want referendums on whether to break with the union, and a majority across the United Kingdom expect Scotland to be independent within 10 years. With the bonds of the union under strain, Naomi and Tim sum up how the Brexit negotiations concluded, and explore the ways in which the deal pursued by the British government made people’s lives worse. Angry fishermen, queuing truck drivers, and the Irish government stepping in to pay for health insurance and Erasmus exchanges for people in the North: a snapshot of a period of Destructive Unionism. You can listen to Part 1 here: https://www.theirishpassport.com/podcast/destructive-unionism-part-1-the-history/ Follow us on Facebook and Twitter at @PassportIrish. If you enjoyed this episode, do give us a good review in your podcast app and share it with your friends.

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0:00.0	Hi everyone, this season 4 finale ended up being such a bumper episode that we split it in half.
0:06.6	Welcome to Part 2 in which we dig into the current moment, the effect of Brexit, and why we're calling
0:12.4	this moment in history destructive unionism. If you haven't heard part one yet, you can follow the link
0:17.6	in the episode description. Do go back and listen to Tim Breakdown, the history of the union and how we got to this moment.
0:23.9	By the way, right after we recorded, the Sunday Times released a series of surveys
0:28.3	showing that majorities in Northern Ireland and Scotland support having referendums on breaking with the UK
0:33.6	and that most across the UK expect Scotland to leave in the next 10 years, as well as showing
0:39.3	a rise in support for Irish unity. So our episode was even more topical than we thought. Here's part two.
0:46.1	Hello, welcome to Irish passport. Let's do it. Welcome to the Irish passport. I'm Tim McInerney.
0:52.0	I'm Naomi O'Leary O'Leary. We're friends. Can you both to Naomi? Anwarfath, Tim. This is your passport to Irish culture, history and politics.
0:59.3	I'm recording. One, two do we, how do we get started on this whole constructive
1:26.3	unionism thing?
1:36.0	Basically, I was reminded of it because I was listening to a really great podcast called Three Castles Burning, which is about the history of Dublin.
1:38.2	It's a tip for me. It's really good.
1:42.6	And it was describing a lot of Dublin's streetscape today. And a lot of the really nice, like, red brick,
1:46.0	old public housing in central Dublin and civic buildings, like the Ivy Market, they were built in this
1:52.6	time. And lots of them were built by like philanthropic, Protestant industrial families, like the Guinness
1:59.8	family, for example, during this whole period of constructive unionism.
2:03.2	And for some reason, it just kind of struck a bell with me.
2:06.3	And I thought, if that was constructive unionism, then perhaps the period of British history that we've just been living through is a period of destructive unionism.
2:16.6	Right.
2:17.1	Okay.
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