Codic cheese is just this glowing monolith, you know, doesn't matter whether you

acknowledge it or not.

Welcome to you. What do you feel like eating today?

And Sarah Archer, I lured you on here as our kitchen correspondent to talk with me about American food trends.

And we would each kind of just talk about a handful of things that we

personally like and are interested in because I think we're kind of a wash in food trends

at the moment and we're kind of at peak food trend because I feel like do you feel like

every time you're on social media someone's like let's try the viral recipe for a thing you've

never heard of. Yep. Yep. You're like oh yeah, of course every time. A viral recipe you've never heard of. And you're like, oh, yeah, of course.

A viral recipe I've never heard of.

And in the olden days, it took at least a few months for something, specifically a

recipe to work its way through the newspaper and word of mouth and so on.

And I just, I love trends in food as a way of learning about what people were going through and

continue to go through and almost hilariously repeating cycles.

And so we're going to talk about desperation pies.

Desperation pies and cake and so forth.

I immediately love this. And is it desperation as in like the Great Depression or is it desperation in like more of an existential way?

Here's what's great, right? Is that I've definitely always heard about like water pie and vinegar pie. Exactly. And Ritzcracker pie. Ritzcracker pie. Ritzcracker. Mock Apple Pie. Which is mock apple pie.

Yeah.

Which was on the box for Ritz Crackers through the 90s apparently or until the 90s. Yeah. Which I really like that they were like, yeah, we know. You want to make the pie. You're desperate. You need to make the pie. But yeah, I have always heard of them as depression pies, but they are even more deeply

within that desperation pies because I think like the pies I just named were all being made,

well, not Ritz pie because Ritz crackers were invented and or rolled out in 1934, I think.

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