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Sarah, hey, Satchie. One thing that we have in common is that we both love the real housewives.

I don't have a super high trash tolerance, but the housewives really, it's perfect for me.

Well, Sarah, since you know what it's like to be a housewife fan, you know that when you watch the show,

even though there are these people who are like deeply flawed, often not very likable,

you still end up kind of rooting for them in a weird way?

Yeah, I think it's because they live in a different reality, so the measure of morality is a bit different

because they don't live in the normal world. Rules don't apply. So this brings me to my big question

for this episode, what would a housewife have to do to lose your sympathy for good?

Wow, I mean, the bar's pretty high. Simultaneously high and low. Yeah, yeah.

Well, what if a housewife was truly one of the most compulsively watchable people on the planet,

but she also maybe ripped off a bunch of super vulnerable people? I mean, are they all kind of

scam influencers who not like this hags, not like this?

It's March 30th, 2021. It's a bright spring morning in Salt Lake City, Utah.

Snow dots the slopes, and for the stars of the real housewives of Salt Lake City, it's showtime.

Filming has already started on season two, and the ladies are headed to Vail Colorado for a ski getaway.

And with the crew hovering around them, Jen Shaw joins cast members Heather Gay, Lisa Barlow

and Whitney Rose as they board a party bus. It's parked in a strip mall outside of Heather's

beauty lab and laser spa. And Jen is impossible to miss in this scene. She's 47 years old and she's

wearing her long dark hair in box braids. She also has on a Fox for Vest and chunky gold and silver

bracelets. And to top it all off Sarah, she's in leopard print high heel boots. It's very

Gen shot, very real housewives. Jen takes a seat with the others who look casual by comparison.

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