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The bottom line is there was a civil war going on in the White House. What do you think is really

the motive behind closed doors? Venezuela is to the United States what Ukraine is to Russia.

Let's cut through all the narrative.

He's trying to secure it for a possible escalation of war with Russia China.

Even if you look at the way he's handling it right now, it's very public.

They're flying over Venezuela.

They're blowing up boats just to say, here's what we're doing.

But I was recruited to do this, to facilitate the capture of Nicholas Maduro. If you're doing this, you're essentially doing a business deal with CIA. You know the track record what it is, and you know you're playing with fire. The highest office asks you to do something, you do it. Just like when my commanders tell me to do it. Where would the payment come from? From whom? It would sold to me that the United States. The contract that he signed is public with you. It's public. $212.9 million over the course of the term. What's the closest you ever got to Maduro? I was getting reports on the type of soap that he used. That's how close I was, Patrick. As close as you got, did you ever have a chance where if you wanted to take him out, you could?

I want to preface a few things before you watch this interview because it's going to be weird. You're going to see a man in a parking lot outside of a homeless shelter who's about to go to court, wearing a nice suit that could be facing jail time because of the leader he was on Operation Gideon that was supposed to go and take out Maduro and take out when I asked him, take out, does it mean you got to kill him?

He says, no, I'm not a mercenary. I'm not this, although a lot of people say he's a mercenary. I told him if he's got a PMC private military contractor, which a lot of places claim that his company that Iran was a private military contractor. He says, no, I'm not. but he, you know, he allegedly was supposed to go out.

He puts a group together of 60 guys, eight of which that get killed by Maduro.

A couple of the guys end up doing time.

They were supposed to do 20 years, end up doing three years in prison in Venezuela.

And there was a lot of weird questions, you know, back and forth of things that happened.

The names he dropped, the involvement of Mike Pompeo and Mike Pence knew about this.

The CIA knew about this.

You know, multiple handlers that came up, multiple meetings.

He's got a contract that was signed by Juan Guaido and others where he's sitting there in a room with the former president of Colombia

and the former president allegedly for a minute of Venezuela,

and they agreed to pay him $212.9 million in multiple payments of finding a way to eliminate Maduro

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