DeShaney v. Winnebago County Department of Social Services
5-4
Prologue Projects
4.6 • 3.2K Ratings
🗓️ 18 July 2023
⏱️ 37 minutes
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Summary
This episode discusses child abuse. We urge you to take care while listening.
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| 0:00.0 | Well here are your number now number 87154 Joshua D'Shani versus Winnebago County Department of Social Services. |
| 0:12.0 | Hey everyone, this is Leon from Fiasco and Prologue Projects. On this episode of 5-4, Peter, |
| 0:18.7 | Riannan and Michael are talking about D'Shani V Winnebago County Department of Social Services. |
| 0:24.8 | This is a tragic case, a failure of the state to protect a child from his abusive father. |
| 0:30.3 | The mother of the child, Joshua, argued that the state had violated the 14th Amendment's due process |
| 0:36.0 | clause by not stopping the abuse or removing her son from his father's custody. |
| 0:40.8 | Take the situation where the child is locked behind the door with his protector and the protector |
| 0:47.8 | becomes the predator and proceeding is brought at the extreme end of the child protection spectrum |
| 0:53.6 | to terminate the parental rights. The court has already said that the Constitution governs that |
| 0:58.5 | relationship. In its ruling, the court found that the state does not have a responsibility to |
| 1:03.6 | prevent harm against children by private actors. This is 5-4, a podcast about how much the Supreme Court |
| 1:10.8 | sucks. Welcome to 5-4, where we dissect and analyze the Supreme Court cases that are imploding |
| 1:21.1 | our civil rights like a homemade submersible, imploding at the bottom of the Atlantic. |
| 1:26.4 | They gone. Peter, I'm here with Michael. Hey everybody. |
| 1:30.7 | And Riannan. Hi, hello. Now that we have some temporal and emotional distance from it, |
| 1:36.9 | is the submarine thing still funny? I was just about to say it's still so hilarious. |
| 1:42.7 | It's still so funny. I feel bad, especially because of the kid. |
| 1:46.5 | Finding out about the kid was a big bummer. I got to say. Yeah, for sure. |
| 1:50.4 | Yeah. But everybody else on that thing conceptually. Yeah. I mean, come on. |
| 1:55.2 | Yeah. And there's like been so much like the stepson of the billionaire who was like going |
| 2:00.0 | to blink 182 concerts and being like, my family would want me to be out and just waiting for that |
| 2:06.0 | inheritance check. Yeah. I feel like there was just a lot in that story about like the hubris |
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