You are listening to the Roberta Glass True Crime Report, putting the true back in true crime.

From New York City, Roberta Glass is now on the record.

Okay, we are live. I am with Tuesday Money of the Elephant Lounge podcast and blog and the Tuesday Money YouTube channel to talk about the Johnny Depp versus Amber Heard civil trial. Welcome to Stay Money.

Thank you. Thank you. I've been excited for this one have you been watching the trial i have i'm behind um but i have been watching quite a bit of it

and listening to a lot of it the only difference here is I haven't been taking copious notes only because I've

been doing other things, but yeah, I've been watching a lot of it. So what's your opinion?

Well, I got to say, I don't like Johnny Depp.

And to be fair, I was very skeptical of any of his claims right from the beginning.

But as stuff came out, I thought, well, maybe, maybe he's got a case, maybe this, maybe that.

And I read the UK decision. And that just, just blew my mind. I think that this whole trial is another form of abuse. That's my personal

opinion.

I agree.

And we saw Dr. Spiegel say the same thing I said, which is this trial is an example of his narcissism.

And I said excess.

It's crazy.

But what do you think, what do you think of the witnesses in this trial

for Johnny Depp? Have they been strong of the witnesses for Amber Heard? Who do you think has been

the strongest witness? Well, essentially what Johnny Depp's case is, you know, nobody's seen anything.

His witnesses have seen nothing.

Of course, he wants us to believe that he's the victim.

And there's no witnesses to any of this except for him reporting her and okay yeah she got a little

emotional nobody's saying that amber heard is perfect by any means nobody's saying that she didn't

...