Today we're going to talk about the one way for Democrats to beat Trump and Elon, and I have two interviews this week.

I sit down with Pate of America's John Favreau to discuss Musk's overreach, and I interview Jen Saki to talk about Trump's lagging polling.

I'm Brian Teller Cohen, and you're listening to No Lie.

Okay, so we've been in the wilderness for a while now.

Trump is following the Steve Bannon model of flooding the zone because he knows that he can send the media and the Democrats scrambling in 10 different directions.

And frankly, he's largely right.

But we've just accidentally stumbled upon a strategy to fight back.

And unlike most of what Democrats have been trying to do, this one can actually

work. So here's the background. This past week, the House was out of session, which means a bunch of

lawmakers held town halls in their districts. To give you a small sampling of what that looked like,

this is Republican Congressman Glenn Groffman's town hall in Wisconsin's six congressional

districts. That district's been solidly Republican since 1967, more than half a century of Republican rule.

Like, I'm sorry, but there are no district-wide BLM protests here.

And yet, this is what the town hall sounded like.

President Trump has issued a lot of executive orders.

I think by at large, this is moving very quickly compared to other administrations.

And I think across the board, he's done some very good things.

He's gotten rid of birthright citizenship.

No!

Illegal is hell.

Quite a bit agitated, and we've seen the same thing in districts across the country.

Republican districts with Republican voters who are lashing out at their

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