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0:11.9 | Hello in the Gettysburg Address Abraham Lincoln called it |
0:15.6 | Government of the people by the people for the people but the word democracy appears nowhere in the American Constitution |
0:22.6 | The French Revolution was fought for Liberté, Egalité and Fraternité and the most the Churchill claim for democracy |
0:29.3 | Was that it was quote the worst form of a government except for all those other forms that have been tried from time to time |
0:36.2 | The Athenian city state famously practiced a limited form of participatory democracy |
0:41.4 | But neither Plato nor Socrates approved the Romans turned their back on the idea of mob rule |
0:46.6 | And it's not until the 19th century that it becomes even moderately respectable to call oneself a Democrat |
0:52.7 | So how did democracy rise to become arguably the most cherished form of government in the world today? |
0:58.2 | In this program we hope to trace the history of an idea across the cultures and centuries of Europe and America in the Middle East and at a time when |
1:05.6 | Ideals of democracy are being thrown into relief by world events |
1:08.9 | We hope to gain a greater understanding of where democratic ideals have come from |
1:14.0 | With me to discuss the origins of democracy is Melissa Lane author of Plato's progeny and University lecture in the history of political thought |
1:22.2 | David Wooten professor of intellectual history at Queen Mary University of London |
1:26.6 | Also with the system winter assistant Muslim Chaplin at Cambridge University where his lecture in Islamic Studies |
1:33.5 | Let's start with you, Melissa Lane in the six-century BC the Athenian city state begins operating its system |
1:39.6 | And what we look back on and call democracy can you briefly tell us how the system worked and how democratic it was? |
1:46.5 | Yes, it was a system of |
1:49.0 | Participation by the male citizens |
1:51.4 | So there were other people in the state who weren't citizens slaves and foreigners and women had a kind of semi-citizen status |
1:57.6 | But weren't able to participate in the democracy |
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