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How To Citizen with Baratunde

Democracy without Politicians (Claudia Chwalisz)

How To Citizen with Baratunde

iHeartPodcasts

Society & Culture, News, Technology

4.4 • 2.2K Ratings

🗓️ 2 March 2023

⏱️ 72 minutes

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Summary

Instead of electing politicians to represent us…what if we just represented ourselves? Peer to peer. Neighbor to neighbor. Baratunde talks with Claudia Chwalisz about citizens’ assemblies—groups randomly-selected by lottery that are shifting political and legislative power into the hands of everyday people. Claudia is one of the world’s leading voices on citizens’ assemblies and founder and CEO of DemocracyNext, an organization working to build new institutions for the next democratic paradigm.

SHOW ACTIONS

Internally Reflect - Imagine life with citizen assemblies

Our reflection prompt is inspired by the DemocracyNext launch event, which you can view on YouTube. Imagine it’s 10 years in the future, and we’ve established new civic rituals. Election Day is out and Sortition Day – the day that people selected by lottery are assigned to various citizen assemblies – is in. What might it feel like to serve in one of these well-facilitated and compensated assemblies with your neighbors? Imagine what it would be like to read media coverage of the deliberations that focus on a community’s attempt at finding common ground, rather than who made the most outlandish statements. What headlines do you see? How do politics feel in this future?

Become Informed - Learn from global citizen assembly experiments

To learn more about citizen assemblies, read the New Yorker essay by Yale political science professor Hélène Landemore. For a deeper dive, read her book, Open Democracy. To see a citizen’s assembly in action, check out the Irish Citizens' Assembly or the permanent citizens' assembly in Paris. Also check out Claudia’s organization, DemocracyNext.

Publicly Participate - Get involved with DemocracyNext and direct democracy powered by everyday people

Subscribe to the DemocracyNext newsletter - they'll be launching a global community of enthusiasts wanting to learn more and help build this next democratic paradigm.

And if you’re ready to roll up your sleeves and start practicing democracy this way with others, look to the non-profit org Democracy Without Elections for resources to get started locally.

SHOW NOTES

Check out our episode from season 2 with writer and organizer Astra Taylor for more on this idea of citizen assemblies as envisioned by the Greeks.

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How To Citizen is hosted by Baratunde Thurston. He’s also host and executive producer of the PBS series, America Outdoors as well as a founding partner and writer at Puck. You can find him all over the internet.

CREDITS

How To Citizen with Baratunde is a production of iHeartRadio Podcasts and Rowhome Productions. Our Executive Producers are Baratunde Thurston and Elizabeth Stewart. Allie Graham is our Lead Producer and Danya AbdelHameid is our Associate Producer. Alex Lewis is our Managing Producer. John Myers is our Executive Editor and Mix Engineer. Original Music by Andrew Eapen and Blue Dot Sessions. Our Audience Engagement Fellows are Jasmine Lewis and Gabby Rodriguez. Special thanks to Joelle Smith from iHeartRadio and Layla Bina.

Additional thanks to our live audience voices Robert B., Sara H., Liza W, and Nick C.

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcript

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0:00.0

I'm Amber Reffett and I'm her gorgeous sister, Lacey Lamar.

0:03.2

If in fact Lacey is not that gorgeous.

0:05.2

Amber, get on with it.

0:06.2

Okay everybody, we have exciting news to share.

0:08.4

We're teaming up with Will Ferrell's Big Money Players Network to bring you our

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0:15.0

We did it.

0:16.0

We sold a bunch of books, we conquered late night and now we'll play fun quizzes and games

0:19.8

with friends and take you along for the ride.

0:22.4

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0:32.8

I really feel personally a sense of dissolutionment with how things work but I also feel like

0:38.2

we cannot give up hope that things could be different because it's in that uncertainty

0:42.6

around hope that motivates us into action and to say that you know we are all capable

0:47.7

of making some changes to actually do things differently to change the way things work.

0:53.2

We're not limited to trying to save this broken system that we have.

0:58.0

We really could be working towards something else.

1:03.4

Welcome to How to Citizen with Baratunde, a podcast that reimagined citizen as a verb,

1:08.9

not a legal status.

1:10.5

This season is all about how we practice democracy.

1:13.9

What can we get rid of?

1:15.2

What can we invent?

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