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The Interview

Demi Moore Is Done With the Male Gaze [Re-Run]

The Interview

The New York Times

News, Society & Culture

41.2K Ratings

🗓️ 25 January 2025

⏱️ 39 minutes

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Summary

In light of Demi Moore's recent "Best Actress" Oscar nomination, we are re-sharing an episode that we originally published on Sept. 14. The actress discusses how her relationship to her body and fame has changed after decades in the public eye.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hi there, it's Lulu Garcia Navarro. This week, we're going to be re-airing an interview I loved

0:05.7

from last year, a conversation with Demi Moore. When we talked, Moore's movie The Substance

0:11.2

was just about to open in theaters. At the time, I noted that she was already getting awards

0:16.4

buzz for her performance. And just this week, she received her first ever Oscar nomination for best actress for that film,

0:23.7

making it a great time to revisit this conversation.

0:26.7

Don't worry, we'll have a new episode next week, but for now, enjoy my interview with Demi Moore.

0:37.0

From the New York Times, this is The interview. I'm Lulu Garcia Navarro.

0:42.7

It is hard to describe Demi Moore's new movie, The Substance. On the one hand, it's a dark comedy

0:48.8

about the horrors of getting older as a woman in Hollywood, but it's also a literal body horror film.

0:55.6

The basic premise is that Moore's character takes this strange elixir that allows her to create

1:00.7

a younger, more perfect version of herself. And you can see that creation in bloody, visceral detail.

1:08.2

It's a movie that challenges us to look at what drives our celebrity-obsessed culture

1:13.3

and the damage it does to our female stars. Moore is already getting awards buzz for it. And even though,

1:20.6

I'll confess, I was kind of grossed out watching it, I also couldn't look away. I've been

1:26.0

mesmerized by Demi Moore my whole life. One of her first

1:29.2

big films, St. Elmo's Fire in 1985, made me want to go to where it was partially set,

1:34.4

Georgetown University, which I eventually did. Ghost, with that famous scene of her making pottery

1:40.6

with Patrick Swayze, made me want to live in a New York loft. That, alas, never happened.

1:46.7

Her later films, like A Few Good Men, G.I. Jane, indecent proposal, were basically the metronome of my younger life.

1:54.3

Along the way, I grew to admire her chutzpah as she became the highest paid actress in Hollywood,

1:59.7

as well as an early advocate of pay equity more broadly,

2:03.3

long before the issue was part of the national discourse.

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