Dem Uniters and Dividers Shape the Party's Future, Dominant Media Hypocrisy, Lessons Kamala Missed
Next Up with Mark Halperin
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🗓️ 25 September 2025
⏱️ 93 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome in, everybody. It's Thursday, and you know what that means. It's another episode of the little program we call Next Up. Welcome into Nexter's old and new. My tone is light. My heart is heavy. I'll tell you why. I am Mark Cowper, editor-in-chief of Two-Way, the live interactive video platform host of this program. And I bring you my exclusive reporting and analysis of all the stories in the news. |
| 0:24.3 | What matters most right now and what says about what's coming up next? |
| 0:28.2 | Two great guests today to Smarties. |
| 0:31.3 | Larry O'Connor, host of the Larry podcast for Town Hall Media and the morning radio host in Washington Powerhouse radio station WMAL, |
| 0:39.6 | the station of my youth is where I learned to listen to Sports Talk Radio. |
| 0:43.8 | And returning Patty Solis Doyle, the Democratic strategist, |
| 0:47.4 | former campaign manager for Hillary Clinton and one of the smartest people I know about politics in general and about her party. Those two coming up next up, |
| 0:56.2 | but first up, my reported monologue. I am typically very optimistic about pretty much everything. |
| 1:05.5 | And coming back from Arizona on Sunday, having covered the memorial service for Charlie Kirk, and watching the |
| 1:12.7 | reaction and then rolling into the Jimmy Kimmel situation. Both of those things, both show |
| 1:18.8 | the red-blue divide, put it in sharp relief, but they also have both widened the red-blue |
| 1:23.9 | to divide. It's extraordinary where we are right now. After 10 years of Donald Trump and going back to the polarization we've seen from Clinton to Bush to Obama to Trump to Trump again, it's a very dark time. And part of that is, of course, the assassinations, the shooting in Dallas and other acts of violence, Minnesota, New Hampshire, and the debate over whether |
| 1:45.7 | the left or the right are a bigger cause of all these things. But there's more going on. |
| 1:50.8 | There's more going on in this country right now. And I don't remember a more fraught time, |
| 1:56.1 | a more tense time. Really struck by a new poll that came out this week. Ask the question, do you think there's a |
| 2:03.2 | political crisis in America, Quinnipiac poll? And take a look at the numbers. Overall, 79% of voters |
| 2:11.2 | say yes, there's a political crisis. 93% of Democrats say there's a political crisis in America. |
| 2:18.5 | Lower for independence, 84% and for Republicans only 60%. |
| 2:23.8 | I suspect if there were Democratic president, the number would be higher. |
| 2:27.9 | Political crisis. |
| 2:29.3 | This is the most stable country in the history of the world. |
| 2:32.8 | There's so much good goes on every day. There's so much |
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