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Hidden: A True Crime Podcast

DELPHI MURDERS: Prosecutor Nick McLeland Interview

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Hidden True Crime

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🗓️ 31 March 2025

⏱️ 115 minutes

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Summary

On this episode, Dr. John and Lauren sit down with the prosecutor of the Delphi Murders case to talk about the case.

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0:00.0

Hello, Hidden Gems. We are here with a very important guest.

0:05.0

If you recognize him, you know who this is.

0:07.0

If you don't recognize him, it's because, well, the trial wasn't televised.

0:11.0

But here he is now. This is Prosecutor Nick McLeeland of the Delphi Indiana trial, the Richard Allen trial.

0:20.0

Richard Allen was convicted of killing two best

0:23.2

friends in 2017, Libby German and Abigail Williams on February 13, 2017. And the jury convicted

0:33.3

Richard Allen. They believe he is bridge guy. They said he is bridge guy. We can now call

0:39.7

Richard Allen, bridge guy, the man on the bridge, telling the two little girls to go down the hill.

0:45.2

We are so honored, actually, that you would be with us today, prosecutor McLeeland. Thank you

0:50.7

for accepting this interview with us.

1:05.0

And full disclosure, I just want to share that we actually will probably be going live later today with some new exhibits that are coming down.

1:10.2

By the time we release this interview with you, we might have already gone live with them.

1:12.1

So I want everyone to keep that in mind that there might be some new exhibits from the trial that have come out that we

1:16.9

might have shared before this interview comes out, but we haven't seen those here yet while we

1:23.2

interview you, prosecutor. While you understand that the public deserves to see these, what were you

1:28.7

saying actually before we? It's just kind of, it's a mixed emotion when those kind of things came out.

1:34.7

I know that the video from Liberty German cell phone was leaked, I suppose, because it wasn't given

1:42.0

through formal channels. So I'm going to say leaked probably two weeks ago or so. And it's just, it's a mixed bag of emotions, I guess,

1:49.7

when those kind of things come out. And mainly because of the family, it affects them. They have

1:54.4

to relive it. It's somewhat for me and my team, because we've got to relive it as well. And so

1:59.8

I completely understand that the public's right to know those things and those things

2:03.8

are public documents.

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