I'm Derek Thompson, longtime writer with the Atlantic magazine on tech culture and politics.

There is a lot of noise out there and my goal is to cut through the headlines, loud tweets

and hot takes in my new podcast, Plain English.

I'll talk to some of the smartest people I know to give you clear viewpoints and memorable

takeaways.

Plain English starts November 16th. Listen for free on Spotify or wherever you get your

podcasts. Welcome to another episode of the Bakari Sellers podcast. Today is a pretty cool and

dope show because I get a chance to interview a friend of mine. We go all the way

back to the Kamala Harris for

president days Hillary Clinton days none other oh and her own campaign and race for

secretary of state none other than my friend Iowa's finest

Deidre Dejah. How you doing today, homie?

I am fabulous, McCurry.

It is another day that we have an opportunity to change the world we live in so I'm always grateful for that

opportunity.

Listen I say I wake up every morning trying to change the world.

It keeps me motivated and going forward because there's a whole hell a lot of things that need

to be changed.

I know you so well.

My listeners may not.

That's why we're doing this at the time we are doing it.

So we start each one of our episodes pretty much the same way,

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