Defending the Victims of Child Sex Abuse — Trey's Law Going National
The Ben Ferguson Podcast
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🗓️ 4 March 2026
⏱️ 55 minutes
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Summary
1. Purpose of Trey’s Law
- Federal legislation introduced to prohibit Non‑Disclosure Agreements (NDAs) from silencing child victims of sexual abuse.
- Ensures victims cannot be legally barred from speaking about their own abuse.
- Victims may choose confidentiality, but it cannot be forced on them.
2. The Story Behind the Law
- Trey was abused for years at a Missouri summer camp.
- As an adult, during civil litigation, he was pressured to sign an NDA, which deeply harmed his ability to heal.
- Trey died by suicide at age 28.
- His sister, Elizabeth Phillips, has become a leading national advocate, pushing to change the law so no child experiences this again.
3. Widespread Problem of NDAs in Child Abuse Cases
- Across the country, predators and institutions use NDAs to:
- Silence victims.
- Protect institutions from reputational damage.
- Delay exposure long enough for statutes of limitations to expire.
- Children often do not disclose abuse until decades later due to delayed disclosure, grooming, and shame.
4. Systemic Issues at Certain Institutions
- Kanakuk Kamps (Missouri) highlighted as a major example:
- Numerous allegations and confirmed cases of abuse over decades.
- Accusations of institutional cover‑ups, pressure on victims, and secrecy agreements.
- Advocacy groups maintain public databases of known or alleged abusers.
- Some perpetrators remained in leadership roles or were moved to other ministries.
5. Survivor Testimony Impact
- A 19‑year‑old survivor, Jayden Harris, spoke publicly for the first time after being protected by Missouri’s version of Trey’s Law.
- She described being pressured by both her abuser and her own attorney to sign an NDA.
- Her testimony emphasized the power shift that occurs when victims know they cannot be silenced by law.
6. Bipartisan Support
Trey’s Law has broad, bipartisan backing in the U.S. Senate:
- Lead sponsors: Sen. Ted Cruz (R) & Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D)
- Additional bipartisan co‑sponsors from both parties.
- Strong expectation the bill will pass.
7. The Harm of Shame & Silence
- Shame is a powerful reason victims—especially children—do not come forward.
- Survivors speaking out helps:
- Their own healing,
- Other victims feel less alone,
- Expose predators still active.
8. Call to Action for the Public
- Sharing the information widely on social media to raise awareness.
- Calling senators and representatives to urge passage of Trey’s Law.
- Supporting survivor advocacy organizations:
- FactsAboutKanakuk.com
- TreysLaw.org
- NMVAlliance.org
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| 0:05.3 | Welcome, it is verdict with Senator Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with you. |
| 0:09.2 | And Senator, you're in Washington, D.C., with a very special guest on a very important |
| 0:14.0 | piece of legislation. |
| 0:15.6 | This is one of those shows that we are promised. |
| 0:18.8 | We're going to get to the elections, and we're going to get to what's |
| 0:21.5 | going on Iran. We will talk about that in future shows, but there is a extremely important piece |
| 0:26.5 | of legislation that you are working on in Washington, D.C. and there are countless people that |
| 0:31.8 | listen to a show that may know victims. And this is a show. I hope you will hit pause. You will share it on social media because it is an |
| 0:39.8 | important law that we're talking about right now. Well, that's exactly right. And this is a special |
| 0:45.5 | show because we're talking today about child sexual abuse. And it is an epidemic across this |
| 0:51.9 | country. So many children are the victims of sexual abuse. |
| 0:55.2 | And we're going to talk about legislation that I introduced today in the Senate |
| 0:59.3 | to empower the victims of sexual abuse and a very special guest that is joining us today. |
| 1:08.6 | And you're going to get a chance to hear about her journey and, |
| 1:13.3 | and tragically her brother's journey as a victim of sexual abuse. Before we get to that, I want to |
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