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DeepSeek R1 & The Short Case For Nvidia Stock | Jeffrey Emanuel

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Technology, News, Tech News

4.71.2K Ratings

🗓️ 28 January 2025

⏱️ 89 minutes

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Summary

China’s new DeepSeek AI model, which reportedly matches GPT-4’s performance at 1/45th the cost, has rattled the AI hardware market and contributed to a 20% dip in Nvidia’s stock price. Investor-technologist Jeffrey Emanuel argues that DeepSeek’s efficiency gains aren’t the only story, as his viral 12,000-word article “The Short Case for Nvidia Stock” also catalyzed the market’s panic. In this episode, we explore how these converging factors could unbundle Nvidia’s once-unassailable lead and drastically reshape AI compute economics.

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TIMESTAMPS
00:00 Start
05:20 Intro To Jeff
07:27 The Issue With DeepSeek
16:00 Inference Compute Explained
24:51 Nvidia's Competition
29:14 DeepSeek's Impact On Valuations
36:46 Criticism Around Jeff's Thesis
44:17 DeepSeek's 45x Upgrade
51:30 The Transformer Explained
01:03:15 Why Is Everyone Shocked?
01:12:07 Synthetic Data
01:21:30 Why Jeff's Article Went Viral


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0:00.0

I basically was trying to help my organic search ranking of my little YouTube tool.

0:06.3

And then it's like in the process, I may have inadvertently contributed to $2 trillion

0:10.0

getting wiped off global equity markets.

0:13.0

Because, you know, the fact is, all of the news headlines came out saying,

0:17.7

the stock market crash because deep seek.

0:20.1

I'd like to point out that the DeepSeek V3 technical paper,

0:23.9

it came out December 27th.

0:27.1

A month ago.

0:27.7

That's a month ago.

0:28.6

Even the newer model, the R1 model that does the chain of thought,

0:32.3

that paper came out a week ago,

0:34.2

and people were all over that.

0:35.8

So why suddenly on Monday did everything crash?

0:39.6

And I'd like to think it's because I'm pretty sure it is that I wrote this article

0:44.0

in a way that sort of speaks to headstrong managers, so they can understand it.

0:50.3

And I published it like in the middle, you know, of the night on Friday, and then it started

0:56.9

taking off, and then it got shared by Chammoth, who has, you know, whatever, 1.8 million, right?

1:03.6

And Chimoth, and it's been viewed over two million times.

1:07.5

Navarov account has two and a half million. And then, like, the Y Combinator, Gary Tan, and the Y Combinator account.

1:14.8

Between them, they have millions of followers.

1:16.7

And not only did they share it, but they were like very effusive in their praise about

1:21.0

this is really smart.

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