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Words Matter

Deep State Radio: When Can We Go To War and Who Decides?

Words Matter

Riley Fessler

News, Government

4.62.8K Ratings

🗓️ 28 March 2021

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

Few decisions a government can make are more consequential than deciding when the use of force is warranted. In the US a debate has raged for decades about how much latitude a president should have in making such decisions and what role Congress should play. Legal contortionism has turned congressional authorizations for the use of force in one circumstance into blank permissions slips still cited by president decades later. This week, the Congress has begun to reconsider these profoundly important issues and we are joined by experts Steve Pomper, formerly of the Obama NSC, and Oona Hathaway, professor at Yale Law School, as well as regular co-host Ryan Goodman, co-editor of Just Security and professor at NYU Law School for a discussion on what changes are needed and which are possible. Don't miss it.Each week, we’re bringing you a new episode of one of our favorite podcasts, Deep State Radio.Deep State Radio, hosted by David Rothkopf, produces new episodes 2-3 times per week and brings together top experts, policymakers, and journalists from the national security, foreign policy, and political communities. You can subscribe to the podcast on Apple, Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts.If you become a member of the DSR Network, you’ll receive benefits such as ad-free listening via private feed, discounts to virtual events and Deep State Radio Swag, and access to the member-only Slack community. This is one of the most closely followed podcasts among the people influencing the most important decisions in Washington and worldwide today. You can learn more by visiting thedsrnetwork.com. Listeners to Words Matter will receive 25% off of the regular membership price. Use code wordsmatter at checkout. Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/words-matter. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Here is another full episode of one of our favorite podcasts, Deep State Radio.

0:19.5

Deep State Radio hosted by David Rothkopf produces new episodes two to three times per week

0:25.4

and brings together top experts, policy makers and journalists from the national security, foreign policy, and political communities.

0:33.6

You can subscribe to the podcast on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts.

0:39.8

If you become a member of the DSR Network, you'll receive benefits such as ad-free listening via private feed,

0:46.4

discounts to virtual events, and Deep State Radio swag, and access to the member-only Slack community.

0:54.1

This is one of the most closely followed podcasts among the people influencing the most important decisions in Washington and worldwide today.

1:03.4

You can learn more by visiting the DSRnetwork.com.

1:09.0

Listeners to Words Matter will receive 25% off the regular membership price.

1:14.0

Use code Words Matter at checkout.

1:18.4

Hello and welcome to another episode of the podcast.

1:23.6

I'm David Rothkopf, your host, coming to you from New York City.

1:26.8

And this being the end of the week, also co-hosting with me, as always, is Ryan Goodman of NYU Law School and just security.

1:34.0

How are you doing today, Ryan?

1:35.5

We're doing well, David, thanks.

1:37.6

We're joined today by two special guests to discuss an important subject.

1:42.8

One is Steve Pompere, who's the interim chief of policy at the crisis group.

1:48.0

Prior to joining the crisis group, Steve was a special assistant to the president, senior director for multilateral affairs,

1:54.7

and human rights at the NSC under President Obama in addition to a number of other senior jobs.

2:01.0

Thanks for joining us, Steve.

2:02.8

Let me be here.

2:04.0

And also joining us is Ona Halfaway, who is the Gerard C and Bernice Latrobe Smith Professor of International Law.

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