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Deep State Radio: Our Unfolding Democratic Emergency: The Red Lights are Already Flashing

Words Matter

Riley Fessler

News, Government

4.62.8K Ratings

🗓️ 2 October 2020

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

The Constitutional rot of the past four years has set the stage for the corruption of our institutions and, equally importantly, for growing delegitimization of our government. This plays into the hands of a president who is ever more desperate to cling to power lest he lose his fortune and his freedom. This in turn has experts who are studying the preparations for the November 3 election to express deep concern that we may be heading into a period of profound crisis for our system, one that, should Trump prevail in undermining the will of the people could mean the collapse of our system and a the onset of a period of national chaos. This is not abstract. Critical, dangerous steps confirming this is the direction we are headed are already taking place. We discuss with Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Barton Gellman, Rosa Brooks of the Georgetown Law Center and Ed Luce of the Financial Times. It is essential listening.Each week, we’re bringing you a new episode of one of our favorite podcasts, Deep State Radio. Deep State Radio, hosted by David Rothkopf, produces new episodes 2-3 times per week and brings together top experts, policymakers, and journalists from the national security, foreign policy, and political communities. You can subscribe to the podcast on Apple, Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. If you become a member of the DSR Network, you’ll receive benefits such as ad-free listening via private feed, discounts to virtual events and Deep State Radio Swag, and access to the member-only Slack community. This is one of the most closely followed podcasts among the people influencing the most important decisions in Washington and worldwide today. You can learn more by visiting thedsrnetwork.com. Listeners to Words Matter will receive 25% off of the regular membership price. Use code wordsmatter at checkout. Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/words-matter. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Here is another full episode of one of our favorite podcasts, Deep State Radio.

0:19.5

Deep State Radio hosted by David Rothkopf produces new episodes two to three times per week

0:25.4

and brings together top experts, policy makers and journalists from the national security, foreign policy, and political communities.

0:33.4

You can subscribe to the podcast on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts.

0:39.7

If you become a member of the DSR Network, you'll receive benefits such as ad-free listening via private feed, discounts to virtual events, and Deep State Radio swag,

0:50.4

and access to the member-only Slack community.

0:54.0

This is one of the most closely followed podcasts among the people influencing the most important decisions in Washington and worldwide today.

1:03.3

You can learn more by visiting the DSRnetwork.com.

1:08.5

9-12-10-28-2-23

1:28.2

This is Deep State Radio, coming to you direct from our Super Secret Studio in the third sub-basement of the Ministry of Snark in Washington, DC, and from other undisclosed locations across America and around the world.

1:47.8

Hello and welcome to another episode of Deep State Radio. I am your host David Rothkopf coming to you from New York City, and we are joined today in Washington, DC.

1:56.5

By new guest who has not been with us before, three time Pulitzer Prize-winning reporter Barton Gelman. How are you, Bart? Nice of you to join us.

2:06.3

Thank you very much. Glad to be here. I'm in New York, by the way.

2:09.0

Oh, you're in New York as well. Well, see, I feel very cozy. And in Washington, DC, we have with us Ed Luce of the Financial Times, as usual, How are you, Ed?

2:20.3

I'm good. Thank you, David. And in Alexandria, Virginia, we have Rosa Brooks of Georgetown University Law Center. Hi, Rosa. How are you?

2:29.8

I'm David. I'm very well. Thank you. And I'm very excited about the presidential debate tonight. I'm getting my popcorn ready now.

2:38.7

Are you? Are you really? Do you have a drinking game that you're planning on?

2:45.4

You know, every time Donald Trump speaks in the first person, you'll be dead within five minutes.

2:50.7

Actually, I was getting a few stiff drinks kind of lined up in shot glasses.

2:56.6

All right. So, you know, I wanted to have a conversation that picks up on many that we've had here because of Rosa's participation largely every week.

3:08.6

And turns to a story that appeared last week in the Atlantic, but is actually from the November, print edition of the Atlantic and they moved it up, which, Bart Roke, which is called the election that could break America, which talks about how the election process could go off the rails.

3:35.0

It is, I think, the best of the stories that I have seen on this topic, other than, of course, the pieces that Rosa herself is written.

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