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It's me, Jack. I'm here with Lex. Welcome to another great episode we have planned for you this week. Oh, I can't wait. It's been a weird world out there. It's been a weird world. Holy shit, there's so much to talk about. Before we get into the episode, of course, I have to remind you. If you're not part of the underground, that's where we have all of our premium first degree content. You can join us right now by clicking that subscribe button on apple podcast it's so easy it's

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who knows maybe more coming i know spotify you're next because i know way more people listen on Spotify than I ever thought. And YouTube. So who knows? YouTube. I know. You guys, it's hard out there. It's hard out there. And then, of course, join our book club this week. We are reading. We Were Liars by E. Lockhart. And I need to get on watching the TV show because I really wanted to watch it before we chat. I'm about to start it. I know. She doesn't end of the month start. Sure do. But we will be chatting about it probably next week, if not the week after. And we love our book club. It's just where we have the best time. It's the best. Okay, let's jump into today's deep dive. You're starting

it off. This allegedly is a wild ride. Yeah, so we're learning for the first time about this man

who it's turning into like a catch me ifcan, like a con man story of epic proportions.

So I'm just going to start with how everyone's starting to figure this out.

So in Manhattan, you know, social elite, sort of high society stuff, there's a guy

named Matthew Christopher Pietras, P-I-E-T-R-A-S is how you spell his name.

Sounds Greek to me.

But anyways, on May 30th, 2025, 40-year-old Matthew was found dead in his Madison Square

Park apartment.

The death, the cause of death is still under investigation.

The way it's being framed is that it was a suicide.

So here's where things get interesting.

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