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How you doing today, Joe?

Bro, I'm doing, I'm doing pretty good,

D'B. I'm doing good. Another day the Lord has made. But honestly, with Coach T stepping off,

you know, it was, I was a little, I was a little emotional. I'm happy, we're going to get into it. I'm happy if how I happened and how he was able to walk away. But, you know, I legitimately, you know what I'm saying? It hit me for a little bit, but I rock with Coach Teak big time. Okay, okay. With all the, you know, all the stuff coming out, you know, like he's the all-time, he's one of the all-time greats and all that. Do you agree with that? Do you disagree with that?

This is- You know what? Hold up. Before you answer that, though, I also want to know what's your measurement for all-time greatness.

That's what I have to tell you, too. When we have the conversation of all-time greats, that's the same conversation I feel like I have when we talk about Hall of Fame. Like, is he in the Hall of Fame? There's different classes. Are we talking like Michael Jordan, you know what I'm saying? Kobe Bryant, LeBron James. Kyrie Irving is in that same Hall of Fame, but I feel like there might be a different class. So when we talk about the greatest coach of all time, I don't think Mike Tomlin might not go now.

It's the greatest coach of all time. No, there's plenty of coaches you can go with Bill Belichick. You can go with Chuck Noel. You can go with other coaches for sure that are in a different class that you can say, that have done it in a way, higher level. But when we talk about greatness, when we talk about Hall of Fame status, I don't like to bash coach Tomlin and put another man down to raise another man up. So I would say, when you say greatest of all time, I don't think so. You know what I'm saying? Hall of Fame is why I say, yes, he's in the Hall of Fame for sure. Like there's a room for the LeBron James and the Michael Jordan's in the Hall of Fame, but still, Kyrie Irving is a Hall of Fame player. And that's what I put it where like Bill Belichick, Mike Tomlin. You know what I'm saying? You can put greatness of other coaches that are better than him, that I've seen before, that have done it to the greatest level. But when you say, is Coach Tomlin the great coach? I can say say yes. He's a great coach. Maybe not the greatest

of all time. There's plenty of other coaches you can pick, but I can put him, I can put him in that class. I can put him in that room. So with me, I think he is a Hall of Fame coach. I think he's a great coach. He's one of the best coach. He's the best football, NFL football coach that I've ever played for. So there's certain people that

play for you play for other coaches. But for me personally, I play for Eric Mangini. I played for Pat

Shermer. I played for Rob Chisensky. I played for Mike Petton and I played for Hugh Jackson.

And then when I went to the Steelers, I played for Mike Tomlin. Out of my NFL career, I played 12 years in the league. I would like to call myself a great NFL player, a dude that comes in there and does his job at a very high level. My best coach ever by far was Mike Tomlin. I never went into a game ill-prepared. I felt like when I was there, he gave us the keys to victory. He let us know the winning

edge. I never had a winning edge meeting with the head coach before where you would go and

meet with just the D.Bs and a couple of the outside linebackers and get the breakdown of while

we're running these plays, while we're doing these certain schemes, and what to expect. So in my position, coach Tomlin, great coach, great leader

of men, great rah-rah, his team meetings, the way that he did that stuff. 19 years, 13 player

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