When you are pioneering anything or introducing new ideas to the culture, you get

criticized. You do? Yeah, did you hear about that? I didn't find the one.

I found someone I respected, and we made it the one.

In the sort of longing kind of view of love,

people understand each other as if by magic.

Nothing itself is addictive on one hand.

And on the other hand, everything could be addictive

if there's an emptiness in that person that needs to be filled.

I now know that nobody changes until they change their energy and when you change your energy you change your life.

I'm Gwyneth Peltro. This is the Goop, bringing together thought leaders, culture

changers, creatives, founders and CEOs, scientists, doctors, healers, and

seekers. Here to start conversations, because simply asking questions and listening has the

power to change the way we see the world.

Here we go.

Hi, it's Kiki Kaurishe,z, the VP of content here at Goop. Today, Gwyneth is talking to her

longtime friend, Vicky Vaconis. Vicky's an osteopath who for decades has

helped people understand the importance of the mind-body connection.

She sat down with GP to discuss her holistic approach to treating emotional and physical pain and

why she sees pain as a powerful teacher.

They also discuss the tenants from Vicky's seminal book,

The Body Doesn't Lie,

and the tools and practices that Vicky regularly leans on

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