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Decoder Ring | Jane Fonda’s Workout, Part 1: Jane and Leni (Encore)

Slow Burn

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News, Society & Culture, History, Documentary, Politics

4.625.1K Ratings

🗓️ 27 August 2025

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary

In 1982, the Jane Fonda Workout became the best-selling home video of all time. Over decades, it and its 22 follow ups would spawn a fitness empire, sell more than 17 million copies, and transform Fonda into a leg-warmer-clad exercise guru. And 40 years after its initial release, when the COVID pandemic hit, the workout had a moment yet again. People began doing it alone and on Zoom, tweeting about it, writing about it. So when Jane Fonda agreed to talk to us, we set out to do an episode about it—but it did not go as planned. On Part 1 of a special two-part Decoder Ring, originally released in 2020, we explore the decades-long relationship of Jane Fonda and Leni Cazden, a fraught friendship that birthed the VHS workout that changed the world. It’s a story of creation, fame, forgiveness, trauma, betrayal, survival, politics, and exercise. You’ll hear from Jane Fonda and Leni Cazden, the brain behind the workout, and Shelly McKenzie, author of Getting Physical: The Rise of Fitness Culture in America. In two weeks we’ll return with Part 2: the nitty gritty story of the bestselling VHS tape of all time. This episode was written by Willa Paskin. It was edited and produced by Benjamin Frisch. We had research assistance from Cleo Levin. Decoder Ring is produced by Katie Shepherd, Max Freedman, and Evan Chung, our supervising producer. Merritt Jacob is Senior Technical Director. If you have any cultural mysteries you want us to decode, email us at [email protected], or leave a message on the Decoder RIng hotline at 347-460-7281. We love to hear any and all of your ideas for the show.  Sources for This Episode Burke, Carol. Camp All-American, Hanoi Jane, and the High-and-Tight, Beacon Press, 2005. Fonda, Jane. My Life So Far, Random House, 2005. Hershberger, Mary. Jane Fonda's War: A Political Biography of an Antiwar Icon, The New Press, 2005. Lembcke, Jerry. Hanoi Jane: War, Sex, and Fantasies of Betrayal, University of Massachusetts Press, 2010. McKenzie, Shelly. Getting Physical: The Rise of Fitness Culture in America, University Press of Kansas, 2013. Perlstein, Rick. Nixonland, Scribner, 2009. Rafferty, James Michael. “Politicising Stardom: Jane Fonda, IPC Films and Hollywood, 1977-1982,” Queen Mary University of London Dissertation, 2010. Get more of Decoder Ring with Slate Plus! Join for exclusive bonus episodes of Decoder Ring and ad-free listening on all your favorite Slate podcasts. Subscribe from the Decoder Ring show page on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Or, visit slate.com/decoderplus for access wherever you listen. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hi, it's Willa.

0:02.0

So more than a few years ago now, I was out and about in the world when I heard the Dolly Parton song 9 to 5 play.

0:12.0

And as I was listening, something like this ran through my head.

0:17.2

Oh, I like this song.

0:19.3

And I like the movie it comes from, the 1980s workplace comedy,-starring Pardin, Lily Tomlin, and Jane Fonda, who actually produced the movie, too.

0:27.9

Fonda produced a lot of movies, didn't she?

0:30.4

All of them were really big hits, and they had progressive themes, and they had progressive themes because Fonda was an activist, although a lot of people really don't like her for that.

0:40.0

I remember her, though, for sure, from the cover of my mom's vinyl record of the Jane Fonda workout, stretching her legs and wearing leg warmers.

0:50.6

I can't swear that's exactly what ran through my head as 9 to 5 was playing, but it was something like that.

0:56.5

And as this jumble of Jane Fonda thoughts ran through my brain, so did another one.

1:02.8

Jane Fonda would make for a great decodering subject.

1:06.5

I mean, how do actress Jane and activist Jane and exercise Jane all fit together? So that's what

1:13.6

you're about to hear. The first episode of our two-part decodering all about Jane Fonda.

1:20.2

This one is about how the Jane Fonda workout came to be. Next time, we'll play you the second

1:25.9

episode about how the exercise tape fits into the

1:29.0

career of Jane Fonda more largely. As you'll hear, these first came out in the summer of 2020,

1:34.2

just a few months after the start of the COVID pandemic. It's a whole five years ago now,

1:39.1

but this episode is still one of my very, very favorites. I hope you enjoy.

1:51.6

I can see that you're here, but you're muted.

1:55.2

Hi, Willa. Hi. There you are. Hello.

2:00.6

Hi. A few weeks ago, I had a Zoom call that I was really excited about. I'm Jane Fonda, and I'm talking to you from Los Angeles.

2:04.1

And I'm an actor and an activist.

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