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Decoder Ring: How the Jalapeño Lost Its Heat

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Arts, Tv & Film, Music

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🗓️ 8 May 2024

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Summary

The jalapeño is the workhorse of hot peppers. They’re sold fresh, canned, pickled, in hot sauces, salsas, smoked into chipotles, and they outsell all other hot peppers in the United States. These everyday chilies are a scientific and sociological marvel, and tell a complicated story about Mexican food and American palates. In today’s episode, we meet Dallas-based food critic Brian Reinhart, who fell in love with spicy Mexican cuisine as a teenager. Recently, Brian started to notice that the jalapeños he’d buy in the grocery store were less and less hot. So he called up an expert: Dr. Stephanie Walker, who studies chili pepper genetics at New Mexico State University. She explains that the food industry has been breeding milder jalapeños for decades – a project led by “Dr. Pepper” himself, Benigno Villalon. Finally, Los Angeles Times columnist Gustavo Arellano puts the jalapeño in context, as part of an age-old cycle in Americans’ obsession with Mexican food: one more ingredient that’s been “discovered,” celebrated, then domesticated. Brian Reinhart’s article about the jalapeño ran in D Magazine. Gustavo Arellano’s book is called Taco USA: How Mexican Food Conquered America. This episode was produced by Evan Chung, who produces the show with Katie Shepherd and Max Freedman. Derek John is Executive Producer. Merritt Jacob is Senior Technical Director. If you haven’t yet, please subscribe and rate our feed in Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. And even better, tell your friends. If you’re a fan of the show, please sign up for Slate Plus. Members get to listen to Decoder Ring and all other Slate podcasts without any ads and have total access to Slate’s website. Your support is also crucial to our work. Go to Slate.com/decoderplus to join Slate Plus today. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Prices vary based on how you buy. Ryan Reinhart is a food writer and when he was growing up in southern Indiana he

0:52.4

remembers that there was a way people talked

0:54.3

about one particular cuisine.

0:57.3

Mexican food.

0:58.3

The perception I always had, what people told me because they were Midwestern people was,

1:02.3

oh well you've got to be careful with Mexican food because so much of it is so

1:06.3

spicy and those peppers you got to watch out for because they'll light you up every

1:11.0

time. One winter Brian's family went on vacation to San Antonio, and Brian finally got to eat the real thing.

1:17.8

It was a revelation.

1:19.8

It was December 27th and we were sitting out on the river walk it was 70

1:23.8

degrees outside and we were calling home saying yeah we're we're having enchiladas

1:28.7

and we're sitting outside and there are all these you know ducks floating

1:31.8

across the water and we're enjoying everything and all the people at home

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