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🗓️ 5 August 2020
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In this episode of Intelligence Matters DECLASSIFIED: Spy Stories from the Officers Who Were There, host Michael Morell interviews former FBI agent Bradley Garrett, who recounts one of the most high-profile homicide cases he worked over the course of his career at FBI. He describes the global manhunt for Mir Aimal Kansi, who was put to death for killing two CIA officers outside Langley headquarters in 1993. Garrett tells Morell how he forged a relationship with Kansi to extract his confession -- and wound up being, at Kansi's request, one of few people present at his execution in 2002. Intelligence Matters DECLASSIFIED is new series dedicated to featuring first-hand accounts from former intelligence officers.
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0:08.4 | This is Intelligence Matters with former acting director of the CIA, Michael Morrell. Brought to you by Lockheed Martin. Your mission is ours. |
0:18.9 | It wasn't until the spring of |
0:23.0 | 1997, which is now four years and a few months after the shooting. |
0:29.8 | Where a local clerk in Quetta called a local Pakistani clerk at the US consulate in |
0:41.9 | Karachi and told the head of conversation, I think, in her due, where he basically said, look, we know |
0:49.5 | that the US wants this guy. We know where he is. We can place him at a particular location, at a |
0:54.6 | particular time, but that's going to probably cost you some money. |
1:01.6 | We go in and we get into a fairly big fight with him. Eventually get him down, get a light on, |
1:07.7 | I'm not convinced, oh, 100% he's the right guy, but I think he is. We have him handcuffed behind |
1:13.5 | his back. I said flip him over a lame on the bed. I straddled him, took an ink pad, inked a |
1:20.3 | thumb, rolled his print, got on the ground with a flashlight, a magnifying glass, and his prints. |
1:28.6 | And in about two minutes, because I had studied his fingerprints extensively, it's the right guy. |
1:35.8 | One of the keys in interrogating somebody is to figure out a way to develop a relationship with |
1:43.0 | him as odd as that may sound to your audience. And how I do that is I don't have judgments about what |
1:50.2 | people have done. And I've seen a lot, I've done a lot, I just tried to with respect like I do |
1:55.5 | everybody else. The long and the short is he goes to the appeals, he loses the appeals, and they |
2:02.8 | set an execution date. So they move him or about to move him from one prison to the other where they |
2:08.6 | get carried out the executions. And he asked me if I would come to his execution, probably not many |
2:16.0 | folks in my position get invited to executions. But I add a respect for him and because he had been |
2:22.9 | straightforward with me, I said yes. On a cold night in 2010, a boy is stopped by the police while |
2:33.0 | walking home from a party in the Bronx. He's only 16. He's been stopped by the police before, |
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