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Decency or division: Starmer takes aim at Reform

Pod Save the UK

Crooked Media

News Commentary, News, Government, Politics

4.61.2K Ratings

🗓️ 2 October 2025

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

It’s conference season, and at the Labour conference in Liverpool - flagshagging, snake-oil merchants and leadership jockeying - is it Keir Starmer’s final chance for a reset? Nish and Coco are joined by political journalist Zoë Grünewald. And later - as Trump reveals his plans for peace in Gaza, including a bizarre role for former PM Tony Blair - is the UK doing enough for Gaza? Nish speaks to Labour MP for Stroud, Dr Simon Opher, who earlier this month was denied entry into the occupied West Bank. Simon also fills Nish in on an innovative new prescription medicine - Laughter.  Finally - we open the mailbag to share your wonderful stories of immigration in the UK - and Nish furthers his feud with a beloved British comedy icon. CHECK OUT THIS DEAL FROM OUR SPONSOR https://www.shopify.co.uk/podsavetheuk  GUESTS Zoë Grünewald Simon Opher MP USEFUL LINKS I am an Immigrant Podcast https://iceandfire.co.uk/project/i-am-an-immigrant/ Pod Save the UK is a Reduced Listening production for Crooked Media. Contact us via email: [email protected] BlueSky: https://bsky.app/profile/podsavetheuk.crooked.com Insta: https://instagram.com/podsavetheuk Twitter: https://twitter.com/podsavetheuk TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@podsavetheuk Facebook: https://facebook.com/podsavetheukYoutube: https://www.youtube.com/@PodSavetheUK Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hi, this is Pod Save the UK. I'm Nish Kumar. And I'm Cocoa Khan. This week on the show, it's

0:06.5

conference season and at Labour Conference in Liverpool, is it Kirstama's final chance for a reset?

0:12.2

We're joined by political journalist Zoe Grunewald. And later, as Trump reveals his plans for peace in Gaza,

0:17.7

will Israel face any accountability? I speak to the Labour MP for Stroud, Dr Simon

0:22.7

Ofer, who earlier this year was denied entry to the occupied West Bank. Then we share your

0:27.7

wonderful stories of immigration in the UK, and Nish will further his feud with a beloved British

0:33.0

comedy icon. I will not be furthering any feuds. Also, I think if the feud is created by people describing

0:40.8

the things you have agreed to do in your working life, then the problem is with you.

0:48.8

The purpose of this government, end decline, reform our public services, grow our economy from the grassroots

0:55.6

and with resolve, with respect, with the flag in our hands, we will renew this country until

1:01.1

we can say with total conviction that Britain is built for all.

1:06.0

Thank you, conference.

1:08.0

That was Keir Stama playing to an audience of a lot of people and a lot of flags, giving

1:15.6

Labor's vision of renewal at his big speech at the Labour Party conference, but hot on the

1:20.9

heels of new Ipsos polling, branding him the most unpopular leader on record and putting reform

1:26.1

in the lead by 12 points over Labor. The question is,

1:28.8

will it be enough to turn things around? Joining us now fresh from the conference as political

1:32.9

journalist and sometimes host of this show. Pod Save the UK. I don't know why I've said to the

1:37.9

name of the show. You don't know either show. Just in case you've already forgotten it. Pod save the

1:42.9

United Kingdom.

1:47.4

It's Zoe Grinnell, Zoe. Welcome back to the show.

1:51.4

Thank you for having me back and I apologise in advance for my croaky voice.

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