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Reliable Sources

December 8, 2019: Carl Bernstein on the impeachment hearings and what's next; Olivia Nuzzi on the messaging wars; politicians using the courts to punish the press?

Reliable Sources

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🗓️ 8 December 2019

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Plus, Trump's hypocrisy about anonymous sources; a British researcher shows how phones are changing news consumption; and a Harvard professor argues that America has "lost its mind." Irin Carmon, David Frum, Olivia Nuzzi, Carl Bernstein, Liz Mair, Damon De Ionno, and Thomas Patterson join Brian Stelter.To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hey, I'm Brian Stelter, and this is Reliable Sources, our weekly look at the story behind the story.

0:06.4

So let's get right to that.

0:07.8

Carl Bernstein, Olivia Nuzzi, and David Frum are all standing by to analyze coverage of the impeachment hearings and to look at

0:14.0

how Rudy Giuliani is using a far right-wing TV channel to blow smoke. Plus

0:19.3

politicians using the courts to punish the press we're going to have a look at what

0:23.7

Congressman Devon Newnes has been doing and later startling findings from a new

0:28.8

study about how we all consume news on our smartphones this This is something that impacts everyone and

0:34.8

you're going to want to see the findings. But first, let's be a little bit different.

0:38.7

Let's go way back in time today. Way back in time because President Trump is the fourth president in U.S. history

0:45.8

to face impeachment in the House.

0:48.5

Can you imagine how the news spread during the impeachment of Andrew Johnson in 1868.

0:55.0

It spread by print newspaper, by telegram, by mail, and by word of mouth.

0:59.5

It spread very slowly. Now fast forward a hundred years, the move to impeach

1:05.1

Richard Nixon played out on live broadcast TV and then by the time Bill Clinton

1:09.2

was impeached there was broadcast and cable TV but it was still traditional one to many media that ruled the day.

1:17.0

The World Wide Web was still new.

1:19.5

It was happening around this time of year, right?

1:21.5

December of 1998 but the internet was

1:25.6

was barely a powerful force yet look there are some obvious parallels between

1:30.6

the Clinton and Trump impeachment, an incredibly polarized Congress,

1:34.6

but there are huge differences as well and the biggest difference is the internet.

1:39.5

What was a novelty then is now an extension of our brains and bodies.

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