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Hey, Tina. Hi, Renee. How are you? I am good. I'm very excited to talk about debuts. And we both said we can't believe we haven't talked about debuts up until this point. Even though we bring a lot of debuts to the show, we haven't devoted a whole show to debuts. I know. And we, this must have been on our list since the beginning. But finally, I'm like, wait, we haven't done this yet. So I'm happy to bring some. Whenever we can, I think we both like to find a debut author. And when we're in book talk, we'll talk a little bit more about like why that is. Like, why do we like debuts?

What makes them so special?

I have three books today that I'm very excited to tell you all about.

I have a lot to say about all of them.

So buckle up.

It's going to be actually, I shouldn't say that.

You know how when you, one of the books I just had to really sit with,

and I'm like, what do I think of this? I still don't know if I have a rating. So I'm going to need a few more people to read and help me process what I read. But otherwise, they're good.

And we don't share our book. So I am, I have a particular book that I thought you might be reading. And I am really hoping that is one of your books for today. I really want to, I hope it is because I'm dying to know about it.

All right. Well, we'll have to find out. We're in a weird mood. I'm in a weird mood. I'm making faces to Renee as we're recording. I don't know why. We're recording later than we normally do. So like maybe we've had time to like let our morning coffee kick in.

Oh, it's, oh, it's definitely kicked in. Although I still have like, I still have half of a, by the way, I'm going to bring this quick to the show. Sidebar. Tragic news in the world of iced coffee,

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