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Gone Cold - Texas True Crime

Debra Mackey Part 2: The Criminal Pathologist

Gone Cold - Texas True Crime

Vincent Strange

True Crime, Society & Culture, News

4.61.8K Ratings

🗓️ 24 September 2023

⏱️ 29 minutes

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Summary

Part 2 of 2. Years after pathologist Dr. Ralph Erdmann was discredited – found to have falsified countless autopsies all over West Texas and the Panhandle, Plainview Jane Doe was buried after her remains had been shuffled around for 11 years. Her grave was marked, simply, “Jane Doe 1982.” When she was exhumed in 2015, however, the mystery began unraveling. And the truth was nothing like anyone thought. The unidentified murder victim, originally determined to have been white by Dr. Erdmann was actually black. It wasn’t the only misstep that made prior identification virtually impossible. The skull buried with the body did not belong to it. Eventually, the body was identified as belonging to 20-year-old Debra Mackey of Lubbock. Who killed her, however, remains unknown.

If you have any information on the murder of Debra Denise Mackey, please contact the Lubbock Police Department Crime Line at (806)741-1000 or reach out to Metropolitan Special Crimes Unit Detective Madrigal at (806)775-3072

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The Lubbock Evening Journal, The Plainview Herald, The Arizona Daily Star, The Arizona Republic, The Austin American Statesman, The El Paso Times, The Kilgore News Herald, The Tyler Courier – Times, The Odessa American, DNADoeProject.org, and Henry Lee Lucas Police Documents were used as sources for this episode

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Quincy Me was a popular television show that ran for eight seasons, from 1976 to 1983,

1:01.0

starring Jack Klugeman in the title Role. In the show, Quincy was the medical examiner for the

1:08.0

Los Angeles County Coroner's Office and worked with police, often contentiously, investigating and

1:15.6

solving homicides. Dr. Ralph Erdman in 1980 became something of the Texas Panhandles Quincy

1:25.0

and of the entire West Texas region when he retired from the United States Army and settled in the area.

1:33.6

By his retirement from the military, Erdman was a decorated soldier by the branch in which he served,

1:40.9

the German Army and NATO. Even before entering the service, Erdman's studies kept him on the move.

1:51.2

His interest in the medical field began early in life, and he began his studies at the University

1:57.4

of Mexico, where he pursued a degree in veterinary medicine. When Erdman moved to study at the

2:05.1

University of Michigan, however, a professor there took a special interest in him.

2:11.6

It's no wonder, really, aside from English, Erdman spoke both Spanish and German fluently,

2:18.5

since he was the son of German immigrants and had grown up on both a South Texas cattle ranch

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