We're back with another edition of the Federalist Radio Hour.

I'm Emily Jyszinsky, Culture Editor here at the Federalist.

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Today we're joined by Neil Chilsen.

He is a Senior Research Fellow at the Center for Growth and Opportunity.

He is also the former Chief Technologist at the FTC, the author of the book Getting Out of

Control, Emergent Leadership in a Complex World, and he's got a sub-sec as well.

We're going to talk about that in a bit.

Neil, thank you so much for joining us.

It's great to be here.

So the context here is we're talking the day after Sam Altman's very first congressional

testimony on generative AI.

Obviously, he's the CEO of OpenAI, which is the parent company of chat GPT.

So there's a lot of conversation very suddenly.

A lot of lobbying money being spent very suddenly here in Washington, D.C. in regards to generative

AI.

Neil, you wrote a sub-sec post on a modest proposal when it comes to AI, your own sort

of Jonathan Swift take on what could happen or what should happen, perhaps, on the regulatory

front when it comes to AI.

First of all, tell us where people can find the sub-sec post and flush out the argument

a little bit.

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