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Debate: Old Testament vs New Testament

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Intelligence Squared

News, Society & Culture, Arts, News Commentary

4.21.2K Ratings

🗓️ 19 August 2023

⏱️ 34 minutes

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Summary

Adam and Eve, Noah’s Ark, Moses and the Ten Commandments, the parting of the Red Sea. These are a few of the stories from the Old Testament. And then there’s the New Testament, with its account of the life of Jesus, the Good Samaritan, the raising of Lazarus and the feeding of the five thousand. Whatever our creed or background, these stories are embedded in our consciousness. They inform our everyday speech and much of our art, music and literature. But which of these books is the greater? For this archive episode, we gathered expert voices to consider the question including writer and broadcaster Anne Atkins, Booker Prize-winning novelist and journalist Howard Jacobson, Professor of Theology and Culture in the African Diaspora Robert Beckford, and Anglican priest and presenter the Rev. Richard Coles. Hosting the discussion is broadcaster, comedian and author David Baddiel.  We’d love to hear your feedback and what you think we should talk about next, who we should have on and what our future debates should be.  Send us an email or voice note with your thoughts to podcasts@intelligencesquared.com or Tweet us @intelligence2.  And if you’d like to get ad-free access to all Intelligence Squared podcasts, including exclusive bonus content, early access to new episodes and much more, become a supporter of Intelligence Squared today for just £4.99, or the equivalent in your local currency .  Just visit intelligencesquared.com/membership to find out more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hello, I'm Ian Stirling and I'm with one of McCain's farmers who grow their potatoes hang on these are odd-looking potatoes

0:06.0

That's kale Ian. You do know you need potato to make chips, right?

0:10.5

Yes, but we don't just grow potatoes. We actually rotate different crops to help keep the soil healthy. So we eat McCain chips

0:16.8

I'm helping do some good. Exactly. Yeah, you're supporting the move to regenerative farming

0:22.3

By the way, I do know the difference between kale and potatoes

0:25.9

Of course you do

0:27.4

McCain, let's all chip in

0:30.4

I mean Stirling and today I'm at a McCain potato field being chased by a massive was

0:36.3

It's just a lady bird Ian. Well, it had a real wasp in our J

0:40.4

Why are they here? Well, we plot wildflowers to help encourage wildlife like birds and insects

0:45.9

So we eat McCain chips. I'm helping do some good. Yeah, exactly. You're supporting the move to regenerative farming

0:52.0

Okay, this time it's definitely a wasp. My life's in danger

0:55.7

Ian, that's a butterfly. McCain, let's all chip in

1:00.6

Welcome to intelligence squared. I'm Connor Boyle today

1:04.2

Addip into the archive for a Biblical clash from

1:07.6

2019 when we invited experts to explore the storytelling of the old versus new testaments

1:13.3

The event gathered a panel from literature and theology to decide which half of the good book the old or new

1:19.0

Testaments are the more revelatory reads in terms of message literature and legacy

1:23.7

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1:27.0

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1:39.4

Now, let's join our host the comedian and author David Badeel with more

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