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Welcome to the Commentary Magazine Daily podcast today is Tuesday September 9th 2020.

I am John Podhorz, the editor of Commentary Magazine. I hope those of you who observed

you on Kippur had an easy fast. I did not. I was starving from at three o'clock onward. It was

really very very grim. It was a grim scene here and I'm still I'm basically got post-traumatic

stress disorder from it. So if I seem a little rattled today, that's that's why but not rattled.

We've got senior writer Christine Rosen. Looks very un rattled. Hi Christine. Hi John.

Maybe a little rattled but for other reasons associate editor Noah Rossman. Hi Noah.

Hi John. Are you rattled? You're not rattled? You're not rattled?

You're not rattled. You're not rattled. Okay and never rattled about anything executive editor

A Greenwald. Hi, Abe. Hi John. Rattle free. He's rattle free. Okay. So speaking of rattling,

how rattled do you think Donald Trump at the campaign are by the New York Times story?

Now two stories about his taxes finances and money earning.

So let me just put it this way. It's not that the story is a whole lot of nothing. It's in no

ways that a whole lot of nothing. However, there is no such thing as tax avoidance. There is either

tax fraud or there is using the tax code as it is written legally to pay the taxes that you legally

owe. So either you consciously violate that through fraudulent means or you ignorantly violate it

by mistake, which is partially what sometimes what audits are intended to discover and you're still

on the hook for the money that you owe, even if you didn't mean to not pay everything you owe,

or you simply followed the law as it is written and paid as much as you were supposed to pay. There

is no such thing as tax avoidance. Everybody in the world pays as much taxes. They are legally

obliged to pay. So the sleazy aspect of this story is the presumption that though they could

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