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Death, Sex & Money | Raising A Country Musician Through Swagger and Psychosis

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Arts, Tv & Film, Music

4.42K Ratings

🗓️ 11 November 2025

⏱️ 73 minutes

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Summary

Country musician Luke Bell had swagger, talent, and a career on the rise, opening for Willie Nelson and Dwight Yoakam. Then mental illness took over. His mother Carol shares what it was like raising Luke, the fine line between his bold personality and paranoid delusions, and navigating his years of homelessness and psychosis before his death at 32.  Listen to his posthumous album, The King Is Back. Proceeds go towards mental health treatment for people in Wyoming who can't afford it. Song List: The Great Pretender Rattlesnake Man Where Ya Been (Music Video) Guitar Man Sometimes On Our Own The Bullfighter River The King Is Back (Music Video) Podcast production by Zoe Azulay Death, Sex & Money is now produced by Slate! To support us and our colleagues, please sign up for our membership program, Slate Plus! Members get ad-free podcasts, bonus content on lots of Slate shows, and full access to all the articles on Slate.com. Sign up today at slate.com/dsmplus. And if you’re new to the show, welcome. We’re so glad you’re here. Find us and follow us on Instagram and you can find Anna’s newsletter at annasale.substack.com. Our new email address, where you can reach us with voice memos, pep talks, questions, critiques, is [email protected]. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Luke Bell's music is full of honky-tong swagger.

0:05.4

His voice is deep, rich, classic country.

0:10.5

And alongside this strut, often, there's a wink about the insecurity, fear, or alienation lurking underneath.

0:19.7

Like in Luke's song, The Great Pretender,

0:22.8

which you talked to Scott Simon about in 2016 on NPR.

0:26.7

That song in particular is just kind of about the time, you know,

0:30.6

in your youth that you spend going out to bars

0:34.4

and then sort of that thing you do, that masculine thing you do, where you're

0:39.3

trying to get laid or whatever and you're traveling around and basically a shallow-based

0:44.5

interaction, which I don't know, am I getting into too much detail here?

0:48.1

We don't need any names if that's what you do.

0:50.4

Right, okay, okay.

0:52.1

It may hurt when you realize that I am the great pretender.

1:00.0

I paid close attention to that interview because when Luke Bell's breakthrough album came out in June of 2016, I was in Cody, Wyoming, Luke's hometown.

1:10.2

The place was a buzz about his Nashville career taking off,

1:14.7

him opening for the likes of Willie Nelson and Dwight Yocum.

1:18.8

A few weeks after that interview, Luke came to town

1:21.5

and headlined a hospital fundraiser in a big barn

1:24.5

where people two-stepped all afternoon into the evening. It was a great party,

1:30.1

and where I first met Luke's mom, Carol. Carol's become one of my best friends. I want you to picture

1:37.7

someone who grew up on a ranch who's quick to tear up or start a debate at a dinner party.

1:48.9

Carol sits up front at music festivals and gives me the best novel recommendations.

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