Death, Sex & Money - Mahershala Ali and Rafael Casal: Envy Is A Hell Of A Drug
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🗓️ 2 June 2021
⏱️ 33 minutes
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In this guest hosted episode, the Oscar-winning actor interviews the Blindspotting co-creator about growing up a "knucklehead," finding a creative partner, and avoiding jealousy.
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| 0:00.0 | Hey, it's Anna. I remember exactly where I was standing in my kitchen when I heard the episode we're going to share with you today. |
| 0:07.8 | It was my first time hearing it because I was on maternity leave. It was 2019, an actor, Mahershala Ali, was one of our guest host while I was out. |
| 0:17.3 | He'd been a guest on the show before, and then he went on to win two Oscars, and we were thrilled |
| 0:22.4 | when he agreed to do an interview for death, sex, and money. |
| 0:26.1 | Mahershullah is from Oakland, and he asked to interview another actor from the Bay Area, Rafael |
| 0:31.4 | Casal. |
| 0:32.5 | I'll be honest, the conversation is such a blur because I was sitting across from somebody I deeply admire |
| 0:39.2 | who was asking me questions about me, which was wildly uncomfortable. |
| 0:44.6 | Because I was like, I want to ask you everything, but I'm going to try to resist because that's not the prompt. |
| 0:52.8 | I called up Raphael in California, where he's preparing for the premiere of his new |
| 0:57.3 | TV show Blind Spotting, which is based on an indie movie he made with David Diggs by the |
| 1:02.8 | same name. |
| 1:04.0 | I asked Raphael what he remembered about his conversation with Mahershila. |
| 1:08.6 | I think mostly what I remember is that Mahershula is a very generous conversationalist. |
| 1:13.2 | Yeah. |
| 1:14.0 | And he, he's one of the more active listeners I've ever encountered. |
| 1:21.3 | And so it felt like a very safe conversation. |
| 1:25.4 | Oh. |
| 1:25.8 | Not in terms of subject matter, but in terms of the care that every moment |
| 1:31.5 | was handled with. That spirit of generosity and listening really came through for me when I |
| 1:40.2 | heard this episode. And I'm excited for you all to hear it today, especially if you're new to our show |
| 1:45.4 | and haven't heard this one before. |
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