Death, Sex & Money - From Fan to Friend: The Unlikely Friendship Between Pico Iyer and Leonard Cohen
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🗓️ 18 January 2023
⏱️ 32 minutes
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Summary
Pico Iyer, author of "The Half-Known Life," reflects on deliberately walking away from his dream job, his decades-long friendship with Leonard Cohen, and surrendering to the unknown.
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| 0:00.0 | If you were to ask me what so inspires me about Leonard Cohen? I would say that he wrote so |
| 0:07.2 | lucidly about mystery. In other words, a six-year-old child could understand it, and yet it's about |
| 0:13.8 | everything that we can't begin to fathom. This is death, sex, and money. |
| 0:23.6 | The show from WNYC about the things we think about a lot |
| 0:28.2 | and need to talk about more. |
| 0:32.4 | I'm in a sale. |
| 0:44.7 | When I reached writer Pico Ayer at his home in Japan, it was late afternoon where I was, |
| 0:47.5 | and early morning the next day for Pico. |
| 0:54.8 | If you were going to turn on a Leonard Cohen song this morning to listen to, what song would you pick? |
| 0:59.9 | Well, I've already answered that, Anna, because I did so with If It Be Your Will. And that's almost the prayer that I begin every important conversation with, |
| 1:07.9 | takes me to the deepest and quietest part of myself. |
| 1:11.7 | If it be your will, let I speak no more, and my voice, and my voice be still as it was before. |
| 1:33.4 | Almost every single word, a monosyllable, and yet it gets to a place that we can't begin to explain. |
| 1:43.6 | Leonard Cohen died in 2016, but he's with Pico, most mornings. |
| 1:49.5 | Pico was a longtime fan of the singer-songwriter, and then the two became close friends |
| 1:55.0 | in the last 20 years of Cohen's life. |
| 2:00.1 | Pico Iyer has written more than a dozen books about travel, stillness, and spirituality. |
| 2:06.9 | His latest, The Half-Kknown Life, is a chronicle of his visits to holy sites and sacred places. |
| 2:14.1 | And we started our conversation, talking about when he first met Leonard Cohen at one sacred place, |
| 2:20.2 | at a monastery outside of Los Angeles, where Cohen eventually stayed for five years, after decades of living like a rock star. |
| 2:29.1 | Pico had been assigned a magazine story about that transition. |
| 2:33.4 | And I will never forget driving up into the cold, high, dark mountains behind Los Angeles, |
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