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🗓️ 9 July 2025
⏱️ 30 minutes
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In this episode, I speak with filmmaker Rachel Mason about her documentary Last Take*: Rust and the Story of Halyna*, which explores the death of cinematographer Halyna Hutchins on the set of Rust. On October 21, 20221, Alec Badwin, who starred in the film, pulled the trigger on a gun he thought was not loaded, killing Halyna and injuring director Joel Souza. Through the lens of grief, media spectacle, and justice. Rachel, a close friend of Halyna’s, offers an intimate perspective on the aftermath of the incident and how it was experienced by those who knew Halyna beyond the headlines.
We also talk about Rachel’s recent docuseries, An Update on Our Family, which investigates the world of family vlogging on YouTube—particularly the story of Myka and James Stauffer, whose decision to rehome their adopted son sparked public outrage and raised ethical questions about online parenting content. Toward the end of our conversation, Rachel talks about her next project, a collaborative effort to unravel a legendary unsolved murder case in Los Angeles. It's a wide-ranging and thought-provoking conversation that touches on art, ethics, personal loss, and the complexities of telling true stories in a digital age. I hope you enjoy it as much as I did.
GUEST BIO
Rachel Mason is a Los Angeles-based filmmaker. She received an Emmy Nomination for her Netflix Original Documentary Circus of Books, based on her biographical telling of growing up the child of owners of an adult bookstore that was a fixture of the gay community during the height of the AIDS era. In 2025 a series Mason directed called “An Update on Our Family” was released on HBO MAX and has been cited in legal arguments proposing legislation changes regarding children on the internet. Following that, Hulu released the authorized documentary about her friend Halyna Hutchins death on the Alec Baldwin film Rust. She is currently completing a documentary about the murder of a young gay man in 1990 named Billy London, which was until 2022 a cold case. The film is being made independently and has been a volunteer effort from the community, who helped to solve the crime.
Last Take: Rust and the Story of Halyna- Hulu
An Update on Our Family- HBO Max
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0:00.0 | The world that Carrie comes out of the prosecutor is the world of real hard truths about life and death and laws. |
0:08.0 | And Hollywood is over here, doing other things, playing make-believe. |
0:13.0 | So I just witnessed that and it felt to me kind of like a reckoning. |
0:25.2 | Hi there. |
0:30.4 | This episode is an interview with filmmaker Rachel Mason about, among other things, |
0:35.8 | her documentary, the last take about the movie set of Rust that was the film where Alec Baldwin accidentally shot and killed |
0:38.4 | tragically a young cinematographer Helena Hutchins. The conversation was recorded on May 27th |
0:44.7 | and I am glad to finally be able to bring it to you. Meanwhile, I have a couple of announcements |
0:49.1 | about stuff coming up. The first is a book event for the Cat hour, my book, which I'm holding up here, |
0:56.3 | if you're watching this on video. This is happening in New York City at the Village Underground, |
1:01.4 | September 3rd. I will be in conversation with bestselling author and friend of the pod, |
1:06.2 | Lionel Shriver. It's going to be amazing. Linal is one of the most exciting and unique and provocative |
1:16.0 | and memorable voices out there. And so I know we're going to have a great conversation about |
1:21.5 | my work, her work, all kinds of stuff. Tickets are $25. But if you purchase before August 1st with the promo code, |
1:30.7 | we will be able to sell it to you for $18. Go to megandowne.com slash events to find out |
1:39.3 | more about that. September 3rd, 6 p.m., New York City. |
1:44.8 | Okay, the second thing, you've heard me talking about it. |
1:47.6 | I'm going to keep talking about it. |
1:49.0 | This is the unspeak easy co-ed retreat. |
1:51.7 | Also in New York, October 11th and 12th. |
1:56.2 | Seats are filling up fast. |
1:58.3 | This is bigger than our usual retreats, but still very limited in size. |
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