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Day X, Part 2: In the Stomach

Day X

The New York Times

News, Society & Culture

4.61.6K Ratings

🗓️ 3 June 2021

⏱️ 37 minutes

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Summary

Franco A. visited the workplaces of two of his alleged targets. We meet both targets to hear the stories of two Germanies: One a beacon of liberal democracy that has worked to overcome its Nazi past, the other a place where that past is attracting new recruits. Today, we explore how Germany's history is informing the fight for the country’s future.

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0:00.0

You mentioned Francois, yes, Francois, I was informed by the Federal Criminal Police Office.

0:15.8

They had found the diary of Francois, Francois former Bundeswehr officer and there was a list

0:26.1

of names, including the Foreign Minister, some intellectual, some human rights activists

0:36.5

and my name, Claudia Roth. And this was so-called animalist to be killed, enemies to be killed.

0:46.9

Really he's a soldier in the Bundeswehr and he posed as a Syrian. He posed as a Syrian to make

1:02.8

refugees responsible. So that was the idea. They would kill people, enemies, but then they would

1:10.0

blame refugees to be the perpetrators.

1:13.9

The case against Francois is remarkable for many reasons. Not only that, as far as anyone I've

1:42.7

talked to can remember, he's the first active duty soldier to stand trial for plotting terrorism

1:49.6

since World War II. Or that he's a rest open the door to a country-white network of people

1:56.5

planning for day X. Or even that he had lived a double life as a Syrian refugee.

2:05.6

What's most remarkable is that the German authorities had been utterly blind to him.

2:13.1

It took a maintenance man stumbling upon a gun in an airport bathroom to uncover it all.

2:22.3

It was just chance.

2:33.3

Back when I first started reporting on this case, I called one of Francois lawyers to ask if Franco

2:39.5

would talk. The lawyer was doubtful, but said he'd pass along the message. I also called the

2:47.0

prosecution. They wouldn't talk on the record, but in their indictment, they're making the case

2:53.7

that Franco A has a far right mindset. They quote from voice memos found on Franco's phone

3:02.4

where he questions how Germany atones for the Holocaust, argues that immigration has ruined

3:08.4

Germany's ethnic purity. And says things like, I know you will murder me. I will murder you first.

3:17.1

They say Franco A was firmly decided to commit a violent act. And they point to handwritten

3:22.9

notes with the names of prominent politicians and activists. And they say that one Friday in the

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