this is part two of two. All right. If you haven't listened to the ATN segment on part one,

you're going to want to check that out. But right now, we're talking pre-shot and post with thermal

optics with Steve Liminov of ATN. All right. Welcome back, gun talk hunters. I'm your host, KJ. And

as promised, we are back with Steve Liminov. This gun talk hunt is brought to you by six hour.

They do a little bit of everything. And I'm sure you've heard of them. But make sure you check

them out. And also ATN, you know, they are the future of optics. They are the cutting edge of

technology when it comes to optics and getting you into thermal quicker. And I've been using thermal

for years. I've been using ATN thermals for years. And not in your traditional sense.

I use it for scouting. I use it for location of prey after the shot. But Steve Liminov is here

with us today. Steve, how are you doing? Fantastic, KJ. Thanks for having me again for the second

segment of this, you know, hunt episode. And I'd love to continue the conversation here and talk

about the. Well, I think I think the I think Steve has kind of cut out on us up for a little bit.

He's frozen a little bit. But but what he's what we're talking about is we're talking about our

ability to extend our hunt, extend our season and get the most out of our optics is really what

we're looking at. And I want to have a conversation. And I will I will be the first say I've got

back from Kodiak. And the one the one thing I wish I would have been able to use in Kodiak was a

monocular thermal because those black tail deer can hide on the side of a mountain in plain sight

and you wouldn't see him. And I wish I had it for scouting. Steve, I'm sure you hear this all the time.

But but for a scouting tool, we're going to talk about we're going to talk about before the shot,

you know, during the shot and we're going to go after the shot, which I think even after the shot

is more important for thermal than even before and during. So Steve, talk a little bit about

before the shot. Well, before the shot in using thermal and detecting where your game is or your

...