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The Times of Israel Daily Briefing

Day 805 - Danielle Pletka on what Trump wants in the Middle East

The Times of Israel Daily Briefing

The Times of Israel

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4.51.1K Ratings

🗓️ 19 December 2025

⏱️ 34 minutes

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Summary

Welcome to The Times of Israel's Lazar Focus. Each Friday, catch diplomatic correspondent Lazar Berman for a deep dive into what's behind the news that spins the globe.

This week, we’re joined by Danielle Pletka, distinguished senior fellow in Foreign and Defense Policy Studies at the American Enterprise Institute (AEI), where she focuses on US foreign policy, the Middle East, and terrorism.

Pletka, speaking to Beman from her native Australia, blasts the Albanese government for its failure to confront antisemitism and for its entirely insufficient response to the deadly shooting at a Hanukkah party in Sydney on Sunday.

Turning to US policy around the Gaza war, Pletka argues that then-US president Joe Biden was indeed a friend of Israel, but was already losing control over the White House to figures such as former National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan when Hamas invaded southern Israel, killing some 1,200 and taking 251 hostage to Gaza, on October 7, 2023.

She critiques elements of US President Donald Trump's foreign policy, including the lack of Middle East experts and the influence of countries such as Qatar over decision-making. Still, Pletka gives high marks to the Abraham Accords and Trump's aggressive policy against Iran. 

Pletka predicts, however, that the nascent International Security Force for Gaza will collapse on its own, allowing Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to say that he was willing to go along with Trump's plan before resuming his own tactics.

In the wake of a social media bust-up this week, Pletka says that US Vice President JD Vance is not anti-Israel, but is instead willing to take whatever positions will help him advance politically -- even if it means befriending Tucker Carlson, who had a softball interview with Nick Fuentes after the antisemitic media personality used racist slurs against Vance's wife.

Despite some warning signs, Pletka says that the evidence indicates that most Republicans -- and the "soul of the party" -- still support Israel and the continued alliance between Washington and Jerusalem.

Lazar Focus can be found on all podcast platforms. This episode was produced by the Pod-Waves.

IMAGE: Danielle Pletka (courtesy) / President Donald Trump and Egypt's President Abdel-Fattah el-Sissi hold signed documents during a summit to support ending the more than two-year Israel-Hamas war in Gaza after a breakthrough ceasefire deal, October 13, 2025, in Sharm El Sheikh, Egypt. (AP Photo/Evan Vucci)

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Times of Israel's Laser Focus.

0:05.6

I'm Laser, I'm the Times of Israel's diplomatic correspondent.

0:09.2

And for those of you who are wondering where Amanda Borscheldan is and are used to waking

0:14.0

up to your morning coffee or your morning run with her, don't worry, she's here, she's

0:18.4

backstopping all this complex technical things that I will never know how to do. So she's here with us. But I am here today with a very special guest, Danny Pletka. Now, some of you might know her from her podcast with Mark Tieson. What the hell is going on? If you haven't heard it, if you want to understand what's going on in Washington,

0:43.5

U.S. politics, what's going on around the world and more, I suggest you check it out. And Danny is a friend, a mentor, was my boss at one point. She is at the American Enterprise Institute,

0:49.8

where she is now a distinguished senior fellow, was the senior vice president in the Foreign Policy and Defense Studies Department.

0:57.4

And she also teaches at Georgetown University, my alma mater,

1:01.4

which I could have taken your class at the time,

1:03.6

and a policy analyst for NBC News.

1:06.7

Thank you for being here, Danny.

1:08.1

Sure.

1:08.8

Happy to be here.

1:09.8

Proud of you.

1:11.6

You're so grown out. Thank you.

1:12.6

You and my mother sound the same.

1:15.6

Well, there you go.

1:17.6

Right.

1:18.6

So we're going to talk about U.S. foreign policy, especially as it relates to Israel

1:23.6

in the Middle East.

1:24.6

But first, what is dominating the news this week in Israel, the Jewish world.

1:31.3

Also, where you are right now in Australia, of course, is that terrible shooting, that terror attack on Bondi Beach in Sydney.

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